Saying Thanks to a Local Hero
This is the time of year when we see a number of television specials which give recognition to unsung heros, who, through their selfless efforts and personal sacrifice, enrich the lives of others. It is in that vein that we would pay recognition to Central Florida’s every day working heros, Ninth Judicial Circuit Public Defender Robert (Bob) Wesley, and, to his lawyers and staff. These hard-working, and, I will tell you, underpaid and underappreciated lawyers are truly liberty’s last champions. For those who are unfamiliar with the duties of the Public Defender’s Office, (at least in Central Florida’s Ninth Judicial circuit which covers Orange and Osceola Counties), Mr. Wesley’s public defenders represent indigent, or poor, citizens charged with crimes, children in delinquency cases, and people who are facing involuntary commitment for mental health problems or addictions.
In 1963, a United States Supreme Court case from Florida held that state courts must, under the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution provide lawyers for indigent defendants in criminal cases. It was this U.S. Supreme Court case then, that led to the establishment of Public Defender offices in Florida, thereby ensuring the right to a fair trial to the poor in this state. In 1964, the Florida Legislature, established the Ninth Judicial Circuit Public Defender’s Office, making this year the 45th anniversary of our public defender’s office. This office has had a rich history of public service under the exemplary 20 year leadership of our former multi-award winning Public Defender turned writer/college professor, Joe DuRocher.
It was under Mr. DuRocher that Bob Wesley first served in that office, as an assistant public defender, leaving after many years of service to establish his own criminal defense practice. In the year 2000, Mr. Wesley, by then a consummate and successful Board Certified criminal trial lawyer, sacrificed a successful and lucrative law practice to run for the office of The Public Defender of the Ninth Judicial Circuit. In my humble opinion it has been during Mr. Wesley’s stewardship these past nine years, that our Public Defender’s Office has reached its zenith. Through his leadership by example, Mr. Wesley has attracted some of the best and the brightest young lawyers to join him in his quest for equal justice for all. He and they are what is right about our system of justice.
So, if the measure of the quality of our system of jurisprudence is the justice that is extended to the least of us, then ours, in the Ninth Judicial Circuit, thanks to Mr. Wesley and his assistant public defenders, sets the standard by which all others ought to be measured. To Mr. Wesley and your band of warriors for the indigent, thank you for your sacrifice, dedication and contribution, not only for the furtherance of justice for all, but, for the quiet example of public service you set for the young.
To learn more about Bob Wesley and the Public Defender’s Office and what they are doing in our community, check his website at: http://www.pd.circuit9.org.
WJS
P.S. It is Christmas time and many folks clear their closets of seldom, or never worn, clothing. Here is a good charitable use for some of those items: Bob Wesley’s Office of the Public Defender gratefully accepts donations of gently used professional clothing at the Orange County Courthouse Public Defender’s Office. Project Community Clothes Closet provides people with proper attire for their court appearances. “Our clients often don’t have anything better than jeans and t-shirts…and that’s not acceptable dress for the courtroom. We want to be sure our clients’ cases aren’t adversely affected by what they are wearing. It is also important to show the Court respect,” explains Bob Wesley. A donation of “courtroom suitable” clothing is a kind and generous but cost-free way to share the spirit of the Christmas season. Thank you in advance for any clothing donations to The Public Defender’s Clothing Drive.
When so many of us are feeling so negative towards the justice system in general with all these horrible tactics that are transpiring in the Anthony case, it is refreshing to hear this story about good people trying to do the right thing for those less fortunate. Thanks for sharing.
It is unsung heroes like this that usually do not get recognition… I say Thank YOU to all of you who work for JUSTICE SAKE… Truth and Justice for victims and advocates to help those who are in need. Also these people of public defenders must face some hardened criminals that they must deal with and that has to be hard too. Judges tell them who their clients are.. They have no choice.. God Bless Them All.
Thankyou Mr. Schaeffer for bringing us this article.
Mr. Sheaffer,
Thanks for showing us what the system of justice is all about.
Congratulations Mr. Bob Wesley for your dedication!!!! You are a honorable man!!! God bless you and your family Mr. Wesley.
From my heart, Mr. Wesley, I say thank you for the wonderful service you are providing to those who have little. Thank you for the sensitivity in realizing that so many of these people simply do not have proper shoes/clothing for a courtroom. Appearance is, indeed, important, and I so proud of you for recognizing that! What a great example you are setting for young, up and coming attys.! You are so special, and I wish you the very best that life has to offer. As an American, I am deeply proud of you! It is truly satisfying to read something good, and something positive about attys.. In my opinion, Andrea Lyons is shameful, and surely must be an embarassment to the legal profession. (Perhaps your office can work to help all the damage done to Mr. Kronk. His hurt has to be deep.)
Again, I thank you for the splendid work you are doing! May God Bless You and your wonderful staff. (and my hero, Bill Shaeffer)
Eugenia
Mr. Wesley spoke to a small class I was in, he was very down to earth and realistic. Passionate about his work, he truly believes in what he does. he seemed to be a good man, Thank you WJS for giving credit where it is due.
What a wonderful post. Thank you Mr. S.
It is my pleasure to award the as yet-blog-novice, Mr. Bill Schaeffer, with the first Annual (or as often as duly deserved) ‘Suspenders Rating’ for articles that encompass the spirit of truth, charity and justice.
The blog entry ‘Saying Thanks to a Local Hero’ is hereby awarded “10″ on the SUSPENDERS rating scale.
How say ye??!
Bill~~your post is just an example of why I admire you sir. Thank you.
Here’s a list of motions filed by the defense I copied from myorangeclerk.com:
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare Florida Statute Section 921.141 Unconstitutional Under Ring vs. Arizona
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921.141 Unconstitutional Under Ring vs. Arizona
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare Fla. Stat. 921.141(5)(h) and/or the Standard (5)(h) Jury Instruction Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied
11/25/2009 Memorandum Supporting Motion to Declare Fla. Stat. 921.141(5)(h) and/or the Standard (5)(h) Jury instruction Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare Section 921.141(5)(d) Florida Statute and/or the Section 921.141(5)(d) Standard Instruction Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied and to Preclude their Application at Bar
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion to Declare Section 921.141(5)(d) Florida Statute and/or the Section 921.141(5)(d) Standard Instruction Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied and to Preclude their Application at Bar
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare Florida Statutes 921.141(5)(I) Unconstitutional and to Preclude its Use in the Present Case
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion to Declare Florida Statutes 921.141(5)(I) Unconstitutional and to Preclude its Use in the Present Case
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921.141(5)(L) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied, and to Preclude its Use in the Case at Bar
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921.141(5)(L) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied, and to Preclude its Use in the Case at Bar
11/25/2009 Motion (Defendant’s) for a Statement of Particulars Providing Notice of Aggravating Circumstances
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion for a Statement of Particulars Providing Notice of Aggravating Circumstances
11/25/2009 Other Table of Exhibits in Support of Defendant’s Motion for a Statement of Particulars Providing Notice of Aggravating Factors
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Objection to the Standard Jury Instruction on Reasonable Doubt
11/25/2009 Objection Written Objection to the Standard Jury Instruction on Reasonable Doubt
11/25/2009 Other Table of Exhibits for Defendant’s Written Objection to the Standard Jury Instruction on Reasonable Doubt
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare 921.141(5)(M) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied (Victim Vulnerable Due to Age, Disability, or Familial or Custodial Authority)
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion to Declare 921.141(5)(M) Unconstitutional Facially and as Applied (Victim Vulnerable Due to Age, Disability, or Familial or Custodial Authority)
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare 921.141 Florida Statutes Unconstitutional Because it Improperly Shifts Burdens of Proof to the Defendant, Thereby Creating a Presumption of Death
11/25/2009 Motion to Prohibit any Reference to the Jury’s Role at the Penalty Phase Being ‘Advisory’ or to the Jury’s Penalty Verdict as Being a ‘Recommendation’
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion to Prohibit any Reference to the Jury’s Role at the Penalty Phase as Being ‘Advisory’ or to the Jury’s Penalty Verdict as Being a ‘Recommendation’
11/25/2009 Exhibit(s) in Support of Motion to Prohibit any Reference to the Jury’s Role at the Penalty Phase Being ‘Advisory’ or to the Jury’s Penalty Verdict as Being a ‘Recommendation’
11/25/2009 Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921.141 Unconstitutional Due to its Failure to Narrow the Scope of the Death Penalty
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion to Declare Florida Statute 921.141 Unconstitutional Due to its Failure to Narrow the Scope of the Death Penalty
11/25/2009 Motion for Jury Instructions Correctly Defining “Premeditation”
11/25/2009 Memorandum Accompanying Motion for Jury Instructions Correctly Defining “Premeditation”
Will need your help Mr. Shaeffer to understand what ALL those mean.
I wonder if Andrea’s law students have writers cramp? o.O
As always you are an inspiration to me, what a great article. I surely hope we will see many more interviews with you & Kathi Belich on WFTV. Please don’t let the nay sayers, jealous colleagues who feel the need to drag your name through the mud in order to gain recognition, discourage you. They want what you have but don’t want to earn it, they think defaming your character will get them ahead in this world. It will only backfire & karma wil take care of them, it almost always does.
There are too many bad guys in this baffling case, even Caylee’s grandparents do not seek justice for her. Richard Hornsy is despicable IMO, envious he will never be a ‘media darling’ which is a compliment, but he says it like it’s a bad thing. Only because it will never happen to him, he has no soul, bad character.
The public needs to continue listening to both you & Ms. Belich on WFTV, it confirms that there are still some in the media who aren’t after ratings only, who don’t lie & distort the truth & who are as outraged at the dirty tricks of Baez, Lyon & the rest of this sleazy dream team as we are. We need to keep hearing your voice, because it represents our voice for beautiful murdered Caylee Marie Anthony.
Brenda,
It means that Lyons, Baez, and Baden are challenging the constitutionality of Florida’s Death Penalty.
TJ
Wouldn’t the constitutionality of (whatever) be a Supreme Court issue and not a criminal court issue? Particularly, not to be filed as part of murder charges? And, wouldn’t that be more appropriately file if/when someone is convicted as a result of those “constitutionality” laws? JMO but it seems they’ve spent most of their time trying to change laws and policies (like jailhouse policies), to “fit” their client. WTH?!
JP,
The Supreme Court cannot rule on constitutionality unless a decision is made by a lower court and works its way through court of appeals, etc. and while I am only an armchair lawyer, I would guess that the Defense is challenging the constitutionality of a law in an incorrect manner by filing it under the auspices of Casey’s trial when she has yet to be convicted of anything. It would be my opinion (feel free to comment Bill or other attorneys on the blog) that they would either have to file their objections in a stand-alone filing not tied to Casey’s case or AFTER she was actually convicted and sentenced to death. But…as I’m not an attorney….I could very well be wrong in this assumption.
Mr Bill, you show so much class and I feel honored to know of you…
What a wonderfull article !!!
Oh and I just love Rottweilers, what a beautiful dog…
An outstanding article that brings attention to the issue of those indigent persons in need of the most basic of everyday necessities, and also brings attention to the hard-working public defenders that receive little or no thanks for their diligence in defending those less fortunate. I for one will soon be looking through my closet.
However off topic, perhaps one of the donated suits can be sent to Mr. Anthony as he seems to believe that shorts, loose-flowing tropical- print sport shirts and flip-flops are appropriate courtroom attire.
Funny comment about Georges attire Autumn. They ARE above the law you know.
So Mr. Sheaffer, now I know why I like you, you have a Rottie!! Best dogs ever.
This was a nice article about the Public Defenders office, it’s good to know that those without the means are able to get fair and decent lawyers to help them. Most time their crimes are way less offensive than the individuals who get the star treatment. MO is that as indigent as she is, Casey who had no means of paying for an attorney would have been fortunate to have someone from the PD office. Instead, because these people saw dollar signs and publicity, she has the suppossed cream of the crop, Mr. Baez excluded of course. They have no interest in justice, they only have money and publicity in mind. What a difference in human beings.
Mr. Sheaffer,
OT… I was wondering if statements made by Rick Plesea Cindy’s brother and emails exchanged by them can be used in court? We don’t know if Rick Plesea will be a hostile witness after all, he is Cindy’s brother and could have been swayed by Casey’s defense anyway, if he starts to change his story, “will and can” Prosecution use his statements and emails in court??? Same question I have for the Anthony’s because we all know they have changed their stories many times on National TV in Casey’s favor. Is there any scenario where the Anthony’s can be used in the defense’s favor??? Can they steer their stories to fit the defense? Is it legal??? Thanks Mr. Sheaffer.
In speaking of attire, has anyone else noticed that Casey seens to being wearing poorly fitting, non ironed outfits provided I heard by Cindy. Does this speak of passive/aggressive behavior if true, on Cindy’s behalf. There is no way that Casey would ever go out looking like she does in court, if given a choice. That is just my opinion based on pictures and quotes I’ve read.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d24-Casey-Anthony-case-Defense-attorney-Andrea-Lyon-calls-judges-ugly-and-jurors-killers-audio ALSO, I found the missing Andrea tapes on this web site. They are still here, but are so buried I have no idea how I found them here.
O/T but know i know you are great proffessional a Rottweiler as a choice as pet, Great strong loving animal I have 5yo german male, 42 champions in background. I think you can judge alot about a person by his choice of pet.
Thank you for showing us.
11/25/2009 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant’s Motion to Prohibit any Reference to the Jury’s Role at the Penalty Phase as Being ‘Advisory’ or to the Jury’s Penalty Verdict as Being a ‘Recommendation’
11/25/2009 Exhibit(s) in Support of Motion to Prohibit any Reference to the Jury’s Role at the Penalty Phase Being ‘Advisory’ or to the Jury’s Penalty Verdict as Being a ‘Recommendation’
I thiink these were filed so Ms. Lyon could tell the jury that they are going to kill Ms. Anthony. Which the opposite is true, that the jury only gives a recommendation and the judge hands down the sentence. Boy is she slick. Also, the motion about the vulnerability of the victim due to the child’s age and being under supervision of Ms. Anthony is also a ringer. This is going to get good. Please comment on if these motions can be granted, I don’t see how, but I am interested now.
This has become a very nice site. The comments are very interesting and thought provocing AND we get to see new pictures of Bill!! Hi to FRG and Jeansee, havent seen you in a long time! Happy Holidays to all! Nice Rottweiler Bill, we had one named Sparky!
I didn’t mention too, nice Rottie girl, Bill!
If justice inherently must include a search for the truth, is the definition of ‘Truth’ different for a defense in a case like this, from that of the side of the baby victim and the people?
We know that Casey Anthony and Cindy and George too, have different definitions of what is ‘truly the truth’– truth will be 100% plus, for any proof of guilt according to Cindy, which can never happen in a case without video of the crime, video of the coverup, and no possible other explanations for this evidence, circumstantial or witness (like there will always be a fight over what is or is not, a coffin fly, and always there is, no matter how tiny, always a chance that a Martian did the deed, or that the mitochondrial DNA could actually be from some stranger match, no matter how unlikely, it’s not 100 percent an individual match).
(Cindy’s search for the ‘truth’ is what she wants the result to be, nothing less without 100% factual evidence)
Will you please read the Dec. 18th, 2008 depo. of James Hoover. 74 pages
george & cindy didnt call police at the tow yard ,should be held accountable , they both knew the smell and yet they choose to not call police ,so they can clean the car, then many ours later calls 911 after they came up with a nanny story . yes , C & G CACEY planed the whole lie , and cacey not reporting caylee missing at all shows she was hoping for fast decomposing , and C & G not checking on caylee or able to see or speak to caylee for 31 days has me thinking they knew something wasnt right before the tow yard . why didnt they call police a long time before 31 days to see thier grand daughter ?
cathy —————
You really believe that is what actually transpired?
cathy —
I realize it’s ben a long time …. but …. perhaps you are forgetting some things, eg…. Cindy did call the police …. did say there was a smell in the car — plus, grandparents have no right to report a grandchild missing from their visits…. somewhat illogical…..guess it’s best to stay focused on what we factually know …..
Hello there Idahokate darling!!!
Happy Holidays for you too!!!! Yes, this is a great blog, I agree.
Mr. Sheaffer’s dog is so pretty!!!
Cathy I see nothing wrong with your theory because in reality when we ALL talk about what we think happened it’s all theories. There are some facts we know that we can work our theories around and it looks to me like you’ve used those. There is nothing wrong with having a different viewpoint from someone else as to what we individually think happened in between the facts that we do know. I’m sorry but none of us are going to get everything we think happened 100% correct when there is evidence that we simply WILL NOT see until trial. We are all guessing on a lot of things and we are trying to fit the puzzle pieces into scenerios that make sense to us individually. IMO The ONLY people that will be able to tell us what happened that is the CLOSEST to the truth will be the PRO’s at the trial. In the meantime, we will continue to try to make sense out of the senselessness of this case.
I haven’t really paid much attention to the whole Richard Hornsby nonsense because, to me, the guy just comes across as a jealous ass. However, I have noticed that WFTV has not updated their reporting on the Casey Anthony case since 11/24/09….despite the multitude of ridiculous filings that the Defense made on the day before Thanksgiving. What’s up with that????
Most Nannies are specially trained women who live inside the home to care for children.
Sir, are you saying that Florida is the reason all other States have Public Defenders? Then yes, we all need to say Thank You to these defenders of our Rights.
But here in Nebraska our So-called Public Defenders alot of times walk hand-in-hand with the State, or to quote Joe Negro (a P.D./Lancaster co.)…”Prosecuters only file charges against guilty people” and ” I don’t have time for every case, just take the plea”. So not all Public Defenders are Equal or good servants to the Public. But to be the ones who Started the Defender System (even if it was under Court Orders) is something Florida should be very proud of.
Again, thank you for your time, and can we see more pictures of your puppy?
Thank you Doug for staying on topic! Having said that…..I too would love more pics of that gorgeous dog! lol.
I did wonder about something though. As this case winds and turns and carries on its bizarre way, have to ask myself if Baez is hoping for the dubious title of “trial of the century”, much like the Nuremberg trials and the Lindbergh kidnapping/murder trial amongst a few others. If so, I pray for him. It’s one thing to pursue a vigorous defense and quite another to waste taxpayers money on this circus. He also has failed to note the difference between “famous” and “infamous”. While I honestly believe that Casey Anthony is getting the underhanded, slimy lawyers she deserves, I sure hope it doesn’t lead to a mistrial. An automatic appeal for a death sentence is to be expected. Sentencing someone to death is a huge undertaking and should not be taken lightly. LWOP would be ideal, she’s a young woman and would have many, many years to repent and reflect. Although some would say it’s a crueler method than execution…someone slowly going crazy, I still believe two deaths don’t bring back the victim. That said, hoping and praying this comes to a fair resolve. Just my opinion.
Bill,
Despite all the theatrics, and stalling, I still agree with you about the jury. Once they have heard all the arguments by both sides, and are settled in the jury room with the FACTS placed before them, only then will a decision be made. That way, they can take their time and debate all issues among themselves until a mutual decision is made. That , to me, is one of the reasons jury selection is so important.
I still find it disgraceful that they have thrown Roy Kronk under the bus. Is it legal to pay his ex-wives for the info. given by them? I find that disgusting, and hope he can sue them for deframation.
Love this blog and look forward to the next addition.
Disgusted: Nothing is stopping Casey Anthony from repenting this very second.
“Eugenia said, on November 30, 2009 at 6:22 am
Most Nannies are specially trained women who live inside the home to care for children.”
Absolutely true In the case the nanny lived in the trunk, as where Caylee spent many nights.
It seems that no matter what the intent of Mr. Sheaffer, there are a couple people who have just got to be as low life as they possibly can. One in particular just won’t stop.This post has nothing to do with anything other that the good works of a fine human being, and it has to turn into the Evangeline/Renee show. Do you not get that no one wants to hear it? There must be a way these two can be stopped. You want everyone to know how clever you are, so why don’t you start your own blog and post all the crap you want to there? You have pretty much ruined two sites already.
I am so amazed at the nastiness that this blog has produced …… what is wrong with you people??? As I understand …. Bill has started this to do a legal service — to provide insight and information …. why are there so many crazies??
Hazaka
I did not post with the intent of being nasty, if you read what I wrote I am asking that these two take the battle elsewhere. One I am sure has already stepped back and issued apoligies all around. The other not so much. I just don’t want to hear it anymore, and I am sure no one else does either. It’s unfortunate for everyone here that it continues. Unsally I don’t remark on it, but it gets to you after a while.
I do enjoy your posts, even though we have different views on some things, but that is what makes the world go round. It’s nice that you want respect for Mr. Sheaffers blog. I do too.
Hello there Mr Bill Sheaffer! It is so nice to meet you. Santa sent me on a mission to tell you, “thank you for paying tribute to a fellow man, Robert (Bob)Wesley and all the people who help him. Santa thinks that you are a good man too, Mr Bill. You are helping to bring justice to a little girl who will miss having a nice Christmas, just like last year.
Is it okay if I give you a hug. Here’s one for your doggy too. I can’t make up my mind just who has the biggest smile, you or the doggy.
You are not too old to send Santa a letter and tell him what you are wishing for. I’ll betcha I can guess what it will be. Can I give a little guess? Thank you.
Well here it is- PEACE ON EARTH GOOD WILL TOWARDS MAN…
Gotta get back to work… we love you!
Ohhhhh Mr Sheaffer. I came to see if you read my message but can’t figure it all out.
I brung you something to cheer you up. I know you don’t get snow in Orlando so I am sending you some in this cyber song by Dean Martin.. Give a listen and relax Mr Bill.
Let it Snow
I agree with KI and have never seen an answer to any question. I ask several days ago, does anyone have an address to send gently used items for defendents. Is it unethical since I do not live in FL for me to ask this? No answer, and no address. I totally support the work of KB and Mr. Schaeffer, but prefer to see videos. This blog has become to complicated to follow. I for one know that unless something MAJOR happens I will not be posting here again. And, for that I am sorry. I don’t like the name calling, the lack of supervision, the lack of feedback, etc. We all have freedom of speech but we also have the ability to “leave”. I am sure that is the alternative motive that drives trolls. But since I am so lost, without the support and replies, I might as well stop wasting my time. My best wishes to all. I hope that Casey gets what she deserves, Whatever that is.
Hello. I’m in the UK, and have been following this case with some interest since I came accross the news reports on You Tube. (The case gets no air time here, so I’m pretty reliant on the www). I would like to thank Mr. Sheaffer for explaining the Florida law in laymans terms. As you can imagine, very different to our own laws here. Hello everyone, and thanks again to Mr. Sheaffer.
Mr Sheaffer, talking about that Sixth Amendment: “The Sixth Amendment requires juries to be impartial. “ How are they going to do that in this case?
As “impartiality has been interpreted as requiring individual jurors to be unbiased. At voir dire each side may question potential jurors to determine any bias, and challenge them if the same is found; the court determines the validity of these challenges for cause. “ Won’t they all be biased by the time the trial is on?
And the jurymembers, they will all be from Florida I think? As article III, Section 2 of the Constitution requires defendants be tried by juries selected from the state in which the crime was committed. The Sixth Amendment extends the rule by requiring trials to occur in districts ascertained by statute. In Beavers versus Henkel (1904), the Supreme Court ruled that the place where the offense is charged to have occurred determines the trial’s location. So Orlando it will be then, the jury 12 people living in Florida. But none of them will be biased. How?
Shilo,
WIth all due respect, the address is listed on the link supplied within the article. A direct link can be found here:
http://www.pd.circuit9.org/contact.html under “Orange County Courthouse Complex”.
Ina,
I’m not Bill, but here is a possible answer for you. Baez can file a change of venue, meaning he can have the trial moved to another part of Florida. I am not positive if he’s done this already. Maybe someone else has the answer to that.
Believe it or not, there are a lot of people in the state of Florida who do not know much about Caylee Anthony.
Fidget ——–
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I agree with you …..
Thank you Fidget, now you mention it, change of venue, I have read about it. But it still wil have to be in Florida. Miami?
It is hard to believe people living in Florida have not heard about the case. And hard to check I suppose. Perhaps some remote living shepherd, plus a non etc. Blind people, are they ok to be in a jury? Deaf? I have no idea really.
I think the change of venue has to be to a city with a similar population and/or demographics. What I hear is that they want it moved to a city with a large latino population thinking the jury will automatically side with Baez. I don’t think this will work because the latino culture in general is very family oriented. Casey, hereself, is not latino. Actually, it doesn’t say much for how smart they think latinos are!
Ina -
I really don’t think there’s as many people “up” on this case as you might think. I’m thinking like the percentage of the population of Orlando is probably a lot lower than we might be led to believe (by Baez). Of course there’s those of us who have followed this from day one, but I know there have been “studies” where people were asked randomly (in Orlando) about it and most had heard the name and that was about it.
I really think a change of venue would be a huge waste of money and Baez only wants to move it to further his own agenda.
Ina,
Not everyone watches the news, nor does everyone partake in the cases involving missing and/or dead children. Some simply do not care, and some may be so involved with their own lives they may miss the details.
Also, just because they may have “heard” about the case doesn’t make them impartial.
Thank you Fidget and JP. So this will be a matter of negotiations? As the defense will want to move the trial out of Orlando, and the prosecution will want to keep it there? Who will decide what will happen? The Judge? And will the appeals be in that same town then, and the Supreme Court in the end? Just wondering.
DMSS : This is a site with all kinds of silly laws, just as a distraction
:
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/florida
There are Dumb laws from all around the world. Of course the dumblaws in the Netherlands (where I live) are not dumb at all really
I agree with Fidget & JP. Not everyone in Orlando is as immersed in this case as we are from a distance. There are many people from all over who will see a story, read it once and that will be the end of it for them. I realize that in this case the defense is desperately trying to keep this on the front page so they can attempt to taint the jury pool, but they are foolish to assume that everyone in Orlando is as stupid as they would need them to be. I hope the citizens are picking up on the fact that they are being insulted by this team of schemers.
I think the jury will be picked in another county and will be sequestered in Orlando where the trial will take place. This will save thousands in tax dollars for the state.
linda pope,
Seems you failed to notice that Mr. Sheaffer was asked for his analysis on motions that have nothing to do with the prosecutors, save one.
The jail related motions have nothing to do with prosecutors, they are between the defense and Orange County, about which defense failed to properly notice Orange County initially, and that caused quite a time delay in those motions being heard. I believe you might actually hear SAO state they have no dog in that hunt, or something reasonably similar.
On the motion that does impact prosecutors, their motives that is related to seeking death penalty, I saw no difference in Mr. Sheaffer’s, typical and usual, well thought out responses. He was not asked this time for his analysis on an outrageous characterization of a witness, or you might have seen what you call blasting or you imagine to be a pro prosecution bias.
Perhaps you are chasing pro prosecution bias windmills in your interpretations. He has not stated and/or implied Baez to be a “Clueless Wonder” as others have recently.
Mr. Sheaffer,
I have a question and it’s about Lyon stating that Casey is scared because of the DP… well, if Lyon wants to humanize Casey “which I don’t believe she can, she should start with herself”… anyways, don’t you Sir think that we NEVER, EVER, heard from Casey she misses her daughter, she wants JUSTICE instead of just talking about HERSELF??? This is about a beautiful little girl whose life was cut short. Is this an appropriate way to the defense to approach potential jurors? I mean to me, defense is CLUELESS to how to make people to believe at least, Casey is a grieving mother.
I t seems that even Casey’s lawyers don’t understand nobody cares about Casey.
Thanks Mr. Sheaffer.
linda pope, I for one am glad that there are attorneys like Mr. Sheaffer to take up for the poor victim in this case. Seems to me that a lot of people are more interested in Casey being treated like a princess, & George & Cindy getting rich, than they are about the little child who was brutally murdered by her mother. Yes I know… Innocent until proven guilty.. Well that is in a court of law. Out here, rational minds accept the fact that the MOUNTAIN of circumstancial evidence points to one person and one person only. The Anthony family is made up of self entitled grandiose feeling people, who are more interested in getting the killer freed than they are concerned about what happened to a tiny little victim who was brutally killed by the person who should have protected her at all costs. The Anthonys deserev no pity, the only honorable people in this whole fiasco seems to be the Pleasea (sp) family. They seem to care enough to actually want to see justice prevail, and have been the only relatives of this poor child to tell the truth about anything.
Sorry for the rant, but my sentiments are ….You go Bill…
Not hearing from you or Cathy Belich. Are you all coming back? You are missed.
With all of the FRIVOLOUS MOTIONS filed by Lyon’s students, I mean Casey’s defense… LOL… what a waste of court time!!! What are they thinking??? Maybe they believe that the more Motions they file the more confused the potential jurors get… go figure!!! LOL
Seriously, Judge Strickland should put a stop on their stupidity and and start saving “our” tax money payers.
Is Joy Wray the next Roy Kronk? Can a defense team use her problems to make her look guilty in public, then in trial, on the stand?
A post under her nickname has suggested that Sgt.Allen might try to destroy evidence she has on her computer hard drive, but that she has other copies in safe-keeping. Then she says she is not happy with the defense, arriving at anytime without notice, at her house and switches to the state, saying they are the ones really wanting justice for Caylee. She is a perfect target, she could never defend herself from accusations on the witness stand, much less in pubic. She’s already changed her appearance and made herself stand out in Judge Strickland’s courtroom, ready for her big reveal as Caylee’s justice-saviour with all the proof to prove no body was in those woods.
She may just have a big target that reads ‘another suspect the police waited 11 months to investigate’ on her forehead but not the ability to see it. She is talking and posting without the aid of any legal council and I suspect she is going to need a very good one for what may be coming her way. And she’s still helping them do it. She’s an adult, but she has children and if the defense makes her a suspect in this child killing, then what of them?
KL where is she posting this? I only see her on one site, and I always take her comments as just a ” hey look at me, I am involved in this case, aren’t I important? I think she is harmless, but agree that the Anthony’s are more than likely using her for some purpose, and I hope for her sake it does not end up with the clan pointing their fingers at her. She is obviously easily used, and will say what her “friends” want her to say. To accuse a police officer of tampering with evidence is plain stupid in my book, but I guess they consider her remarks will be taken as ramblings.
Show Me, why are you saying stupid things about Snoopysleuth? That’s not her. Why are you starting trouble. Stick to the Casey Anthony topic.
Scheaffer never said he would be blogging and giving feedback all day. He writes his blog and commenters take it from there and discuss the topic at hand or related issues to this whole case. I doubt he has time for a back and forth like other blogs where some blog owners join in the “conversation”. Some blogs have the back and forth, give and take of the blog owners. Some don’t. This one does not.
FRG: Fortunately, most of us have not had “up close and personal” time with sociopaths, and it is extremely difficult for us to understand how a person could go out dancing almost every night for 31 days, after brutally slaughtering a beautiful little two yr. old that happened to be her daughter. Casey is a clear danger to society, and wheather she gets the DP or not, she should never, ever be allowed back into society.
It’s the same with pediphiles. They should never be released! They will only abuse or murder another child.
Eugenia,
So right! I watched the episode about Shasta & Dylan Groene on ID investigates Wednesday night. I almost didn’t watch it, because I have a granddaughter and a grandson, and knowing what those poor children had to suffer through is almost more than I can bear to think about. Poor Dylan suffered so and was so abased and humiliated by this man in front of his sister, that thinking about what was in his mind makes me crazy. Shasta had to not only witness her brother being molested, but be molested herself, and then watch her brother be shot and burned, all by a man who had a record as a pedophile, and was free to roam the country. This case in particular proves to me that the DP is totally warranted for some people. If it were my grandchildren, I would gladly kill the person myself, and spend the rest of my life in jail. These people who murder little children do not deserve any rights, and no one will convince me otherwise. I am talking about narcissists, and sociopaths, not someone like Andrea Yates. I am talking about the fake “crazies”.
Eugenia: Thanks a lot! Yes, it’s unimaginable for us just trying to understand the reasons Casey was partying and could NOT care less about her daughter. I am reading Diane Fanning’s book and this has been good so I can recall all of the lies Casey told to all of her friends and her parents… anyway, first thing she did when she was arrested was to call her brother to ask for Tony Lazzaro’s phone number. Her priorities were NOT her daughter and this is very sad, it’s always about HERSELF. What really irritates me is her parents throwing anybody under the bus and NEVER trying to get answers about Caylee where they should be getting, their own daughter. Well, Casey didn’t become a liar overnight and Cindy certainly didn’t do a lot to correct her daughter and things got out of hand. IMHO
Mr Scheaffer:
Will you blog again soon? Checking back every couple of days, and nothing.
You were blogging every two/ three days, but now………
Enjoy reading here, and appreciate the legal interpretation’s.
Thanx
The don’t do as I do or have done but do as I request of you now approach to defense motions.
When defense wanted a jail visit between Casey Anthony and her parents made public they went so far as to do a motion to get it…..
But now they don’t like the idea of jail visits released all of a sudden….
Wonder what SAO will do with the proof of obvious 2 faced approach to jail visits being released.
01/07/2009
Motion to Compel
MOTION TO COMPEL RELEASE OF VIDEO VISITATION OF GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY ON AUGUST 14, 2008 FILED
Linda from New Jersey……..I do not agree that Andrea Yates was legally insane. She had a very small window of opportunity from the time her hubby left, until her mother-in-law was to arrive. She used that time to methodically murder her children. She murdered them in a very deliberate and calculated order. She had been told by doctors to NOT have more children, but she got pregnant anyway.
With regards to Casey Anthony, she never wanted a child. There was no love in her heart for anyone, much less Caylee. Casey’s actions were calculating and deliberate for many months leading up to Caylee’s demise. She was elated once the deed was done, and went about her life enjoying her freedom from motherhood. Remorse is not an emotion that Casey Anthony understands. Sociopaths never do!
Casey will be very comfortable in prison. In her mind (in a backwards sort of way) she is a celebrity (like Paris Hilton). She will have a fan club (fools with no life) who will send her money and write her letters. She will probably have offers of marriage by the freakoids of the world that want to marry someone on death row. Let’s just hope her cell is cold, stinky, and rat infested.
To: pipkin said, on December 5, 2009 at 3:28 am
Linda from New Jersey……..I do not agree that Andrea Yates was legally insane. She had a very small window of opportunity from the time her hubby left, until her mother-in-law was to arrive. She used that time to methodically murder her children. She murdered them in a very deliberate and calculated order. She had been told by doctors to NOT have more children, but she got pregnant anyway.
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I am so amazed at those who deign to know the truth …. may I ask… are you a mental health professional … analyzed Andrea Yates, sat in the court room, read the entire processings? …. or what .. how do you come to your conclusions??? And … oh my…. ya think Andrea Yates got pregnant all by herself?? Get real….
Yes, I followed the case intently. And that woman was not legally insane, in my PROFESSIONAL opinion.
Give Us A Break,
Thank you!
pipkin said, on December 5, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Yes, I followed the case intently. And that woman was not legally insane, in my PROFESSIONAL opinion.
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And your PROFESSIONAL opinion is based on what PROFESSION? Only a mental health PROFESSIONAL who has examined and diagnosed the person is qualified to make such a judgement… and “following” a case is not the same as reading the transcripts ….word by word… please, dont be so snarky …. Andrea Yates – has been deemed by MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS … a very sick woman.
Dear Mr Sheaffer
I have a question how is it that Andrea Lyon’s can have the said videos completely whipped clean from internet history like it never happened…And the can;t do that with internet pornography ie: child porn /.snuff/.politically incorrect things..Can she be using the “communications decency act section 230) seems very strange
David
Dear Mr. Sheaffer,
Next Friday is the next motions hearing in this case. Dominic Casey is trying to get out of his deposition with the state. Cindy, George and Brad Conway have been subpeonaed to testify. I guess that would be in regards to this issue. Would you please comment on what we can expect to happen.
CaperBretoner~~did you wake up to a winter wonderland this morning? Hfx West here.
I think Cindy, George and Conway may have been called to court re the jail visitations.
Baez wants the video of his visits destroyed and the Antonys don’t want their visits on video anything. I think that is wishful thinking.
disregard the * anything
Mr. Sheaffer, It is very thoughtful of you to honor those that assist the indigent and distressed.It is truly a selfless act these “heroes” perform in helping those with far less than themselves. People often forget that the homeless do exist, even in America, and mental illness can strike anyone, anywhere- regardless of age, race, gender, or medical background. (And I’m not talking about the commenters pretending to be someone they aren’t…they aren’t mentally ill-just down right mean!)
Snoopysleuth,
Yes, it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas. Thought I was the only one in NS drawn in by this case.
CaperBretoner~~I know we have an EastcoastDeb from the Maritimes. I have also met a few from Upper Canada and the West Coast. I have been following this case every since the first Nancy Grace Show aired it. I started my own blog in July. I hope Bill writes another post soon.
Mr. Sheaffer – This is my first time commenting on your Blog, and I sincerely appreciate all of the insight you have provided for those of us who are interested in the upcoming Casey Anthony trials. I have noticed that you have not posted a new Topic in over a week and hope that you have not allowed all of the negativity that has occurred to convince you that your legal opinions are not respected and appreciated. I look forward to your analysis of the upcoming hearing on Friday either here or on the WFTV news.
As for those individuals who have elected to use MR. Scheaffer’s Blog as a place to rehash past rivalries, this is not the place. Why do those of us who are not involved in your petty disagreements care if elfinette leaves a non-confrontational comment or who she is? I think whoever the little elf is was quite comical. As for people changing their names to comment, by what I have read over the past month, I can hardly blame some people if they did, especially if it would allow them to express an opinion without being attacked. I personally don’t think it is mean for someone to question the mental health of people who insist on starting arguements or who make unfounded accusations. It seems to me that there are those who comment here who play tag team blog attack and that does come across as somewhat unstable. Or are you just the same people changing your cyber names as well? Your ongoing drama has served nothing more than to make you look foolish and immature. Please, let it go.
Give Us a Break – I’m sorry if I offended you. That was not my intention. I have not been “let out to play” by anyone, and have no desire to argue with you. I have been following the Anthony case on WFTV for many months and was excited to learn that Bill Scheafer had started a blog. Many of the people who comment here seem to know a great deal about this case and I enjoy learning from them and reading their opinions as well. The reason for my earlier comment is that I have noticed the comments are becoming fewer and I was hoping Mr. Scheafer would post another topic. Don’t you hope he does as well or are you only here to pick a fight where none was intended? I should have probably kept my opinion about the arguements that have transpired here to myself and would have if it hadn’t appeared that the same old bickering was starting up again. If Snoopyslueth has the power to send people here, that is not my problem. It is theirs for not insisting that she speak for herself.
It’s just too bad that each person who comments here is not valued and that a request for leaving personal issues out of the comments, results in an unfounded insinuation. Again, I apologize if I offended you.
As you see, Give Us a Break, I came in above with my real name. Not Mia. Are you willing to do the same? Snoopyslueth did not send me. I do exchange comments with her and enjoy her sense of humor. I honestly don’t know whether she is elfinette or not and really don’t care. I am just very tired of all of the crap that has transpired here on Mr. Scheaffer’s Blog and think it is rediculous that all individuals are not welcome. As you will note if you scroll through all of the comments that have been left here over the past few months, not one has been left by me.
It is quite obvious that there are particular persons going from one blog to another stirring up a row, bringing in cohorts, then claiming to be victimized by others who are decent commenters. When someone starts calling others uninformed and unintelligent outside their own blog, it is not only offensive but highly revealing of their own need, constantly seeking to get special attention. The “all about me” syndrome, can fast ruin a good blog. and now it is Bill Sheaffer’s. What has he got to come back to, why waste his time.
Andrea Yates was psychotic and delusional. She was hearing voices that were VERY REAL to her. She had an extreme psychotic breaktown. It’s very sad that she didn’t get the help and medications she needed before taking the lives of her children. Believe me, this is something she will have to endure for the rest of her life~
It might help if you would learn more about her illness.
Eugenia said, on December 7, 2009 at 7:04 am
Andrea Yates was psychotic and delusional. She was hearing voices that were VERY REAL to her. She had an extreme psychotic breaktown. It’s very sad that she didn’t get the help and medications she needed before taking the lives of her children. Believe me, this is something she will have to endure for the rest of her life~
It might help if you would learn more about her illness.
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Eugenuia … you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! To think for a moment she wasn’t pyscotic is a tragety as sad hers….
Sadly Andrea Yates was so incredibly mentally ill – a preventable tragedy occurred that the family (her husband in particular), their church and her doctors will all be living with what they did – or more importantly – what they didn’t do to help her. On top of her mental illness, she was suffering from a severe psychotic break probably caused by postpartum depression. She had been hospitalized for her psychotic episodes and had been on psychotropic medications that doctors just couldn’t seem to either get right – or her husband didn’t work hard enough to make sure she was taking them correctly. She was living in a remodeled school bus for goodness sakes for a long time with all of those kids as her sole responsibility as Rusty didn’t see his role as a caretaker for his family other than his job at NASA.
If there ever was a case to make for someone committing the unthinkable while suffering from a severe psychotic breakdown – it was Andrea Yates. Now that she has been properly medicated for a while – from what I hear – she is living in her own private hell over her actions and deeds that few of us can even imagine. We must have some sort of stipulation in our justice system for cases such as this one. Please read all of the history of this case before jumping to conclusions. She is in the right place now. Finally.
lilyolily said, on December 7, 2009 at 8:14 am
Sadly Andrea Yates was so incredibly mentally ill – a preventable tragedy occurred that the family (her husband in particular), their church and her doctors will all be living with what they did – or more importantly – what they didn’t do to help her. On top of her mental illness, she was suffering from a severe psychotic break probably caused by postpartum depression
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Actually …. she was suffering from POST PARTUM PSYCOSIS … which is mucgh more severe than postpartum depression ….. and no one
noticed! Its on all of their heads……
It is no wonder Bill Sheaffer is not putting up a new post. What possible reason could he find for doing so? I am sure he is quite through providing a place for one blog to prove they are better than the other, all in their own minds I might add. I read several sites, and there are great commenters on all of them. Sadly the few who feel the need to show off their superiority, (again, in their own minds) ruin things for everyone. This site was free from that until a few days ago, and here we go again. Wonderful job all, mission accomplished.
i hope strickland does NOT grant jose the right to not be filmed he is just looking for ANY loophole so he can play mailman between the godawful grandparents and babykiller.
cecelia -
Baez wants to go back to his touchy-feely games with Casey. Also, he wants total control over her. He lets her know what he wants her to know, talk to who he wants her to talk to. He wants her isolated from the “world” so it’s just him and her. Isn’t that special?
Legal question: The defense’s alleged (self-proclaimed) witness to prove Casey did not put the remains in those woods, has been busy making web-cam YouTube videos today, from a chat about how she got her computer back from the police (all filthy and dirty), to two parts of her new mail from the Geraldo Rivera show.
This witness had also an interview with Sgt. Allen this morning, to which she complains in her first web-cam, she told the police THREE times that she needed her lawyer with her because it was wrong to ask her questions or use anything she said (put in a report) without her lawyer present.
Of course this witness is not charged with a crime, but then most people being deposed in this case, come with lawyer or two attached at the hip.
Does this witness have worries about no lawyer with her? She later charges the police with trying to destroy evidence, in another of today’s little web-cams. Any problem in publishing this about the police?
Geraldo and People Magazine are the same media resources well used by the Anthony’s and Baez. Will this witness turn out to be a big distraction tactic for the defense, is she actually useful to the defense in her statements to help Casey? Or is there something else going on, push her into a 6th Baker Act, show her as incredible, and make a suggestion that it was really not Kronk, but this witness and/or her husband searcher, who were the real killers? She will fall apart long before trial, maybe she can be pushed to a point she might go off meds and who knows, maybe show the potential jury pool that she might be guilty of something.
Police wrongdoings– after meeting Sgt. Allen this morning:
Going on Geraldo Rivera Show next Sunday maybe– part 1:
“the real cruel killer is still out there and the cops just want to destroy evidence”
and opening the Geraldo show mail:
(she also talked to the People Magazine ‘dude’ and got his card, after the Oct 16th Casey Anthony hearing, at her own courthouse debut. She was obviously planted there by the defense, noticeable and ready to play her media role– what is her role? The REAL role.)
KL thanks for the links to Joy’s videos. By the looks of things she is well on her way to her next involuntary stay on the psych ward. She is so full of contradictions from one day to the next that she will be useless as a witness for either side.
I imagine that LE have to investigate all of her claims, but of course we won’t find out what exactly is on her computer until trial, or hopefully in a doc dump. Interesting that she’s now saying that LE are trying to destroy evidence.
I agree that the defense are using her and if you think about it, both her and her husband, a convicted (?) or alleged child abuser, will make excellent patsies. Move over Roy Kronk.
Show Me,
Ahhhh, figures. Thx
lilyolily
good for you to say so.
all of the trouble comes fromone blog which we ll know who it is.
bill is very aware about it. the person wityh two idientities is of course exactly who you say
there are smart people here that she cant fool
I can’t imagine that either the defense or the State would be doing themselves a favor using Joy Wray for their own witness, but I sure do hope the defense does.
Thinkerbelle, what is backtype?
Whoa !!!
About the topic: I bet we can see a suspect walk with some fancy suspenders soon
So that is where they went?
Give Us a Break,,,you really don’t have to do this. Any person with an IQ above 60 already knows what those bloggers are about. And, I can only guess the thrill of EXPOSING someone is what you are about. They aren’t very bright, and I can only have compassion for them at this point.
The trouble makers here have been banned from the sensible blogs such as MD’s, mine and Auntdeedee’s. They remind me of a pack of pitt bulls scratching at the doors trying to get in. Now these folks are supposed to be adults. Well, it seems apparent that the medications they are on don’t seem to be working. Some of them self-medicate from a bottle.
I am sure Mr Sheaffer can judge for himself who is creating all the problems. He can visit OUR blogs to see that we run them in a dignified manner.
You may as well give it up but if cannot supress your frustrations, go ahead and get it out, the podium is all yours. Ask Santa to bring you a punching bag and give yourself a good workout. Get yourself a hobby, volunteer at a local charity, stop making yourselves miserable. The only thing you are to me is a bunch of words that make little sense. You see, I can close out this page and shut you out of my life. You have to live with yourself. That must be pure he** and you have my deepest sympathy… Happy Holidays!
Oh yes Snoopysleuth, you are a real paragon of dignity. I guess you forget what you write on your and Dave’s blog. Your sexual innuendo’s to Dave are quite becoming of a so called Lady. Jump off that high horse of yours and come back down to earth. Build yourself an igloo up there and hibernate. You would do us all a favor.
Snoopysleuth, at least you finally got one thing right…pit bulls! I’m not scratching to get in by no stretch of the imagination, but, let me remind you, Ina was Dave’s friend long before you were ever thought up! The only thing you do is goad, antagonize, create conflict and chaos. I’ll bet Kreuzer didn’t give you his email address as you requested. And, I seriously doubt you are going to be able to play that whining madd game with your buddy laura…the screeching/ bawling is coming from her rear tires. And, you have just named the game-judge for yourself! You intentionally pit people against each other and try to get dumbazzes to choose, immediately, if not sooner. The only thing you want people to volunteer for is to give to the less fortunate…yourself! I won’t play opossum with you…I’m going to keep mine on a leash, and let it devour you.
Would anyone that has been banned from Sloppyueth, or DD’s please say so: Never heard of the second, and didn’t realize anyone actually went to the first!
Repulsive how all of you come into someone elses site and fight with your enemies, then claim that your own blogs are clean from fighting. Of course they are, your crap in everyone elses yard, and keep your monitoring up to warp speed so that only 12 of you can tell each other how wonderful you are. Ina isn’t my cup of tea, but she sure seems to rankle the hell out of the three of you. All of this over a man not any of you have met. Talk about the need for mental health!
My Pit is offended! She doesn’t scratch at the door to get in. She lays by it cuz she knows I will come to get her.
To Mr. Shaeffer~Thanks for always being kind when you speak and trying to help us understand this tragic case. I have no doubt you fight for justice for Caylee and others. I wondered if you knew that your blog is infected with sociopaths???? This case has brought them out in droves. Was that your real purpose? To call attention to just how rediculous people can be? If so, you’re brilliant! You have a lot of subjects to study.
To anyone else involved in the arguing~I could care less about any of it! It’s ruining this blog. Yes, I think Snoopy’s questions are stupid and so are Ina’s. So what? I think a couple of them think that they know everything and that they are somehow special or gifted or whatever. So what!!!!!!!!!!!!! ugh! It’s like feeding trolls, they do it to get a reaction. Let it go!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t give them that power!!!!!!!! Again, it’s ruining this blog!!!!!!!!!! Ignore them!!!!!! Reply to a comment that is intelligent. Or if you run across a question that you have time to find the answer, do it. I am not trying to tell anyone what to do. The back and forth is stupid. This whole page is devoted to this crap. Please, I am a caring person and want justice for a sweet baby who was murdered by her mother and sold out by her grandparents. If that is truly your purpose, then you will stop this fighting. Please.
Is there any news about this case?
Thank you for writting such a lovely article on Bob Wesley and the Public Defender’s Office.
Love your post Mr Sheaffer…I feel for many of the public defenders that receive no credit. Often it is thought because they work for the public defenders office…they are not very good attroneys. Maybe this is true for some of the public defenders, but it is just as true that some attorneys in private practice are not so good.
For those of you not in the area to donate to the clothes drive for the public defenders office…I am sure there is one in your area. There are also many shelters for homeless and womens shelters that could use any donations. It is Christmas and please remember there are many out there in need. Happy Holidays.
*Ceceilia
I think Jose is already the messenger for Casey Anthony and her whacked out parents. He is allowed to take his laptop in to the jail. I would guess they webcam each other about how unfair the media is to sweetheart Casey. Poor thing.
Oh great *Snoopy,
*Vicky just switched avatars with me and took all of the text that I had just entered as her own!!
Psssst…….Sorry *Vicky
You said everything that I wanted to say, but did it so perfectly.
Thanks *Snoopy,
I look forward to ANOTHER year of discussing, disagreeing, and just chatting with you and all of my online buddies. I think once the wheels of justice finally begin, things will simmer down on the blogs, and it will all go back to how it was. At least I hope so.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!! ~Diana