Legal Analyst Bill Sheaffer on Casey Anthony Case

LET IT BE.

Posted in Latest Posts by William J. Sheaffer on April 21, 2010

Now that the dust is starting to settle from the volcanic reaction to recent events in the Casey Anthony case, this seems the appropriate time to take stock of same,  try to decipher meaning and motives, and hopefully calm the troubled waters.

Let’s start by taking a look at the precipitating event which leads us to where we are today, the now infamous invitation by Judge Stan Strickland, subsequent to an October 2009 hearing, to one David Knechel to approach the bench.  At that time, in open court, with television cameras rolling, Judge Strickland offered recognition and a compliment to Mr. Knechel (known to most as Marinade Dave) for some earlier blogs Mr. Knechel had published about the subject case.

For those who do not know this, Mr. Knechel, under the pseudonym of Marinade Dave, regularly writes and publishes a WordPress blog about a range of topics, but primarily about missing and murdered women and children.  So, a trip to the bench for a brief public exchange seems harmless enough, right?

Well, not really.  The problem seems to lie in that several of the blogs to which the Judge referenced his compliment contained remarks by Mr. Knechel critical of the Defendant and the Defense team.

Whether the criticisms had merit is not the point.  The issue is really quite narrow:  could a reasonable person construe the Judge’s remarks to Mr. Knechel as a ratification of his criticisms of the Defendant and her Defense team?  And, if so, would a reasonable person then conclude that such ratification evinced a prejudice or bias either for the State of Florida, or against the Defendant and her lawyers?  Again, if so, then the conclusion could be drawn that the Defendant could be deprived of  her constitutional right to a fair trial.  The upshot is that the beliefs and any conclusions drawn here lie not with anyone  but the Defendant, herself.

That leads us to a discussion as to the  propriety of the Defense attorneys filing a motion to disqualify Judge Strickland.  Upon learning of the above incident, the Defense had no alternative but to disclose it to their client, Casey Anthony, and discuss with her the effect of same on her, and, whether she still held the belief that she could receive a fair trial with Judge Strickland.  If Casey Anthony reasonably feared that she could not, her Defense counsel is left with no other choice but to file a motion to disqualify the trial judge.

Why is there no choice?  Because, in the event that Ms. Anthony is convicted of murder and sentenced to death, and loses her first round of appeals, then subsequent appellate lawyers would attack the competency of her trial lawyers for their failure to raise the issue.  Ultimately, if this attack is successful, it would result in a reversal of her conviction and a new trial for Casey Anthony.

This inexorably leads us to discuss the contents of the subject motion to disqualify trial judge.  Therein lies one’s sense of disappointment  and  a cause to levy criticism and rebuke.  The motion to disqualify trial judge needed only to have addressed the narrow issue which I earlier defined.  The evidence offered in the motion on that issue alone would have been found to have been legally sufficient and should have achieved the desired result.

However, it is the inclusion of all of the rest of what can only be described as vicious, scurrilous, vituperative, condemnatory and patently mean-spirited, together with unsubstantiated and untrue allegations that subjects this pleading to the harshest of criticism.  What is it about this case that causes otherwise good people to act with such toxicity and attack, with utter disregard of the consequences, the character of a man like Judge Strickland?  I don’t have an answer, perhaps some of you do.

At this point, we have to address Judge Strickland’s order.  Usually when a judge grants a motion to recuse or disqualify, it is done without comment or opinion.  This order, granting the defense motion, however, contained an opinion, causing some in the legal community to wonder about, if not view with a critical eye, the prose contained in said opinion.

In ruling on a motion to disqualify, a judge is only to pass on the legal sufficiency of the motion and cannot defend, dispute, or put into context the allegations contained in the motion.  He cannot call a press conference to do this either.  In this instance,  the judge, granted the motion with an opinion, which obviously was in defense of his character.

Certain law school instructors leveled some criticism at Judge Strickland for that.  But perhaps it would serve those to remember that Stan Strickland is not only a circuit court judge, but also a husband and a father, whose children live, go to school and work in our community.  Judge Strickland has given back to and served the citizens of the state of Florida not only through his civic contributions, but also through public service and sacrifice of financial gain, in the furtherance thereof.

I would assert that he should be expected to respond to a wholesale attack and vicious characterization that goes to the very essence of his being.  Perhaps these same law school instructors might want to consider how they would react if they, themselves, were the subject of such a personal attack, and it was instead, their wives, children, parents, friends and colleagues who had to deal with the consequences and the aftermath.

Finally, in looking back, should we castigate Marinade Dave for blogging? Judge Strickland for extending a compliment? The Defense for filing the motion to disqualify (which, again, they were obliged to do)? Or, Judge Strickland, again,  for the content of his order?

No. The prosecution of Casey Anthony will not be impacted by this series of recent events, nor will the ends of justice be subverted and, in the end, the jury will reach a just verdict based upon the evidence presented at trial.  So, in the words of Paul McCartney and the Beatles, “Let it be.”

WJS

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  1. Beast said, on April 21, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    As always, your wisdom and experience puts it all in perspective. I wonder though, aside from the obligation to do so. Was the defence feeling a little reluctant, knowing how patient Judge Strickland has been?

  2. ludwig said, on April 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Thanks for the rational, reasonable explanation Mr. Schaeffer. As always your calming and experienced voice will be a good influence on the blogosphere. Hey, why don’t you do this more often???

  3. ThoughtElf said, on April 21, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Bill,

    Thanks so much for this informative and balanced article. Several points in particular standout:

    1. “In this instance, the judge, granted the motion with an opinion, which obviously was in defense of his character.Certain law school instructors leveled some criticism at Judge Strickland for that. But perhaps it would serve those to remember that Stan Strickland is not only a circuit court judge, but also a husband and a father, whose children live, go to school and work in our community.”

    As a layperson, I am glad Judge Strickland did avail himself of his right to use the only method and media at hand to offer up some defense for his character. Unlike others in this situation, his options are severely limited by his professional role. For many of us, he was raised on our esteem, not lowered.

    Thank you for reminding that he is also a Husband and Father. May he now have less stress on his hands to enjoy his family.

    2. “The prosecution of Casey Anthony will not be impacted by this series of recent events, nor will the ends of justice be subverted. And, in the end, the jury will reach a just verdict based upon the evidence presented at trial.”

    Different players, same evidence. Encouraging reminder to get back on track regarding the facts.

    3. “Let It Be”.

    AMEN. Hope this is well heard and heeded. :)

  4. Morgan said, on April 21, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Mr. Scheaffer, once again, you display class. IMO, I feel this was a hard decision for Judge Strickland, however, it was the best decision. I understand that he did by wrong by acknowledging a blogger in open court, but was the blogger (MD) wrong in publicly posting such praise? I can’t help but think if this acknowledgment and praise was not publicly announced, we would not be having this blog. On the other hand, as you say, let it be and as my Grammie says, it is what it is and at the end of the day, it still is what it is…..

  5. suz said, on April 21, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Hello Mr. Shaeffer and welcome back, you have been missed. Thank you very much for your article and your opinion on the most unfortunate situation that has occurred. I believe there is indeed a silver lining in this chain of events.The defense will now be made to tow the line.The decorum in the court room will definitely change for the better.One thing will not change though, and that is a new judge will have no bearing on the mountain of circumstantial evidence against Casey Anthony. Judge Strickland will be sorely missed, but never forgotten.God Bless Judge Strickland,Judge Perry,and most of all Caylee Anthony.

  6. BB said, on April 21, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Well said, and well heard, thank you Bill Sheaffer
    I so hope the ‘LET IT BE” is meant for EVERYONE
    and heeded by EVERYONE. Will be interesting to
    see who can and do just that. The Beatles never
    dreamed they would be a participant in the offering
    of a good word from a wise man, after many years.
    Thanks again We need you to drop in more often.

  7. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Not only will this be advantageous to the prosecution in speeding up some of the defense stall tactics, but this may have been exactly what Judge Strickland wanted. I’m certain that he did not want to be slandered or remembered in this manner, but he intended to retire anyway. Given the amount of time this case will take to get to trial, Judge Strickland may well be happy to get out while he still can.

  8. Naomi said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Thank you Mr Sheaffer for your eloquence, skillful articulation and mellifluous explanations of these intricant legalities. Your blogs are deeply appreciated.

  9. FRG said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Mr. Sheaffer,

    Thank you so much for your professional and wise words on this issue. It was really sad when I heard on TV of his recusal, I cried to tell you the truth. Judge Strickland is a honorable and nice man!!!!
    In my layperson opinion defense has shot themselves in the foot and I have read Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jr will stop their nonsense!!!

  10. auntdeedee said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Thank you, Mr. Schaeffer, for putting this whole happenuing into perspective. The defense, I believe, made a mistake, but it won’t alter the course of justice.

    Yes, let it be.

  11. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    I am relieved by your insight. Above all, I want the person responsible for Caylee Anthony’s murder to be held accountable. I am certain that all civil human beings want the same thing. I am saddened that Judge Strickland was subjected to such a vile personal attack and, while I found it a bit odd that he responded as he did, I cannot blame him for it. After all, he has exhibited the patience of Job with this counsel and then he is blindsided after all. I think what was clearly so underhanded was that the defense chose to file the motion so late in the day on a Friday. Seems to me they were looking for maximum public impact. They seem to consistently behave in the most outrageous way possible….seems as though their purpose is to heighten the public outcry against their client. I wonder if this could be a tactic to obtain a change of venue or perhaps support a claim of a biased jury?

    Amazed….there are two Frankies. I am frankie (no caps) and have blogged for two years on RS site, WFTV and here. I don’t think I have ever commented on marmalade’s site and only occasionally on any other site.

  12. tulpjes said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    I wish Marinada Dave would “let it be”.
    But NO he’s still going at it.

    He wants more than his “15 minutes”.

    Thank you Mr. Schaeffer.

  13. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    So there is NO chance of a misunderstanding….THAT IS NOT ME POSTING AT MARMALADES!!!!!!!!

  14. frogs said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Welcome back Bill! I’ve missed you.

    While I believe the defense made quite a mistake by changing judges, I do not feel the outcome of this trial will be any different. The evidence alone will convict KC, and that’s what really matters.

    Justice for Caylee!

  15. suz said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    i am disgustet by marinade D actions,and the prize paid our judge strickland!
    tulpies,i agree he want more than 15 min of shame!

  16. twinsdad said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Mr. Schaeffer,

    Your perspective is welcomed by many. I have been looking at this case and try my best to keep abreast of what’s happening. I have a different perspective of existing Florida law since I was born and raised in Texas…and I have a Georgia twist since I lived there for twenty years before moving back to Texas after my Dad passed. I find the “Sunshine Law” very unique when most discovery evidence is being released to the public. With the change of technology of the internet and the ability of just about the whole world can now look in and participate via on-line newspapers and blogs both pro & con. Since you practice in Florida, Do you find the “Sunshine Law” as a hindrance or as burden to a lawyer, judge and jury when trying a case?
    Again thank you for your time and perspective.

    Twinsdad

  17. BG said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Yes, if MD had handled the situation with a little more tact and class, I think people would feel a lot differently about him.

    It’s the fact that he bragged about it many times and as others mentioned, he wanted his 15 minutes each time he brought it up. And never botheredto add he was joking in some of the misleading posts.

    Great article though! Thanks Mr. S.

  18. me4sure said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Thanks for a succinct response. I appreciate it, sir.

  19. BG said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Thanks for the freedom of speech on your blog, makes for a more interesting well rounded comment section.

  20. suz said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    UMM.. that suz is not me that just posted!!!!!

  21. savannahsnanny said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Mr. SHeaffer…thank you…what will be, will be…and I trust “it’ will be. JA

  22. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Suz, I knew that wasn’t you. Someone’s up to their old tricks.

  23. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    I understand Mr Sheaffer’s explanation of the need to file the motion. However, my opinion is that it was done so unprofessionally. The defense could have waited until Monday at 8:00 or whenever the clerk’s office opened so that the hubbub would have been addressed right away, not three days later. The way they filed, it looked like a deliberate effort to create a tempest in a teapot.

    I do not understand how baez can continue to do some of the things he does. I thought he is an officer of the court and should be acting with more integrity. He seems to have none at all.

    I also think it is a shame that mason has chosen to besmirch what, as I understand it, was a respected career. He has adopted the same snarky, in your face attitude that baez exhibits. It is unbecoming and makes him appear sneaky and dishonest. Too bad, he seems as sleazy as baez with this latest shenanigan.

  24. suz said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    suz,sorry i was writing this,my name is suzanne,in short suz!just to clear it up,and i dont will bring you in trouble!sorry for the confusing name!

  25. Maura said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Thank you, Mr. Sheaffer.

  26. suz said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    suz ,sorry for confuse you,my name is suzanne in short suz! i was writing 9.35,sorry again!

  27. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    I agree frankie, it is very unprofessional. He does look sneaky, dishonest and sleazy.

  28. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    I do think casey is entitled to a vigorous defense…that right is guaranteed. However, there is a difference between a vigorous defense and a defense that is mounted by deliberately ruining the lives of innocent bystanders in a dishonest effort to free the client. There have been so many people that have had their reputations ruined and even their basic right to “the pursuit of happiness” taken away as this defense moves through the community unjustly accusing others who are completely innocent in this case. It is unbelievable and an embarrassment to the citizens of this state.

  29. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    frankie, the saying ‘under the bus’ should be the name of a future Anthony book. It’s all they’ve done thus far. Rather than demonstrating any possibilities that Casey is so ‘innocent’, the defense and Anthonys have sought out to ruin anyone directly or indirectly connected to them. It’s a disgrace. That’s not defense, it’s offense.

  30. Curious said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    I think what many fail to realize is that Mr. Knechel was not primarily being castigated within the blogging community because he wrote about his bench encounter with the judge.
    The primary reason he was and is still being castigated is his ego and hubris. Mr, Knechel placed that before justice for a little girl named Caylee Marie Anthony.

    Mr. Knechel was so beside himself with glee at the opportunity to be an “insider” on the fast track to a scoop that he allowed himself to become a stooge for the defense team.
    He viewed his interview with the PI for the defense team as an “opportunity”. Once Mr. Knechel was made aware of how he had been ego stroked he threw a “Casey Like” tantrum and then posted the PI’S contact info on his blog and then encouraged his little gang of cyber bullies to harass the man by phone/email & text.

    Mr Knechel fell victim to oldest trick in the book and then complained about being hit by the infamous Anthony bus. The only problem with that is if you lay down on the road sooner or later you bound to be hit by something.

    You cannot insert yourself directly into a criminal case and then not expect to have your motives questioned.

  31. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    I completely agree Curious. There is also the little matter about his assinine accusations and name publishing (which has all now been deleted) on his own blog today. Of course, this has been an on-going issue for quite some time with this ‘out of control’ blogger.

  32. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Curious…my concern was surely not for the blogger. I agree with you. My concern if for Judge Strickland, Roy Kronk, ZFG, and others that have had their lives forever changed in this insane quest to throw suspicion on others without one iota of fact to support such a charge.

    ECDeb: Yep the wheels on the bus. I think cindy is stretched out on the highway just waiting for that bus. I would bet my last nickel that baez will go all out at trial to implicate cindy, and cindy will cooperate to create “reasonable doubt”. Think about it….she has been all over the place changing her story and so has george, muddying the waters, trying everything in their power to diminish the effect of their own words…..

  33. Gracie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Thank you Curious for setting the record straight.

  34. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    I think so too, frankie. I think Casey’s letters are the beginning of a set up that will find them spinning on the wheels of the very bus they’ve been driving. I can’t wait.

  35. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Unfortunately, the deletions will not undo the damage. Many people now believe an innocent man, who I know personally and looks nothing like the man he is accused of being, is a registered sex offender in TN. MD posted the RSO pic on his site with the bloggers real name because he was angry with the blogger for comments made on a different WordPress blog. Even though he has deleted it, it exists in cyberspace. That is why I pointed out on this blog and on every blog I frequent that I do NOT post on that blog.

    I do not understand why the media continues to report that MD’s blog was so anti casey. That just is not the case. But, if I understand Mr. Sheaffer correctly, it makes no difference that the blog is not pro prosecution, the blog titles, which were written tongue in cheek, gave the appearance of being anti casey and that is why the good Judge was forced to recuse himself.

  36. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    I was glad you cleared it up about your name, frankie. I don’t know this person but I do know that MD did this and it is so dispicable. That’s his MO, do something horrible and then say he made a mistake. Written words can be deleted but you’re right, the damage has been done. His low-life habits are going to come to light, eventually. He’ll be ruined. More and more are turning against him and seeing him for the bitter,arrogant person that he is.

  37. NosyParker said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    “However, it is the inclusion of all of the rest of what can only be described as vicious, scurrilous, vituperative, condemnatory and patently mean-spirited, together with unsubstantiated and untrue allegations which subjects this pleading to the harshest of criticism. What is it about this case that causes otherwise good people to act with such toxicity?”.

    I’m not sure why the defense attorneys would resort to such behavior, considering they’re “Officers of the Court”, as Baez so frequently reminds the court. But of course, he also says it’s a “muck of justice”. Maybe as an Officer of the Court you can translate that for us non-legal people.

    I agree it’s time to let go of the Marinade Dave thing. It’s a done deal. I can’t help but think that old Leg Horn Fog Horn messed up and didn’t expect to have the Chief Justice preside over his final case before retirement. You know, the one that he’s doing because, “It’s so much fun”. Alternatively, he could want to go into hand to hand combat with the top gun before he goes.

  38. Gracie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    I thought MD just hated women with all of his derogatory comments aimed at women. Now I understand, he hates anyone who disagrees with him.

  39. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    ECDeb: I think you are right. Those letters may very well have been written to start the ball rolling to set up one of the other anthonys.

    There was also a video of Caylee on youtube. The camera person never speaks even when Caylee attempts to engage him/her. It was weird to say the least. At the very end of the video, the camera starts moving under the high chair tray and Caylee leans over the side and the video stops. I wonder what was the purpose of this odd video.

  40. Gracie said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    I wondered if that video of Caylee would end up in the courtroom too. It is very weird. And there is another one too where the camera person never speaks. Creepy.

  41. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    This is the link if anyone wishes to view the video.

  42. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    OOOPPs sorry Craig. I only meant to post the link, not the video.

  43. floridapossum said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    I bellive that if the filing of the motion had been anything other than a ploy, the defense would have filed said motion immediately, not when it was merely convenient. I would also like to say, that if I were a defendant, I certainly would not want someone such as Jose Baez to represent me. His scurrilous attacks could do nothing but alienate a jury. As for Marinade Dave? I pay no heed.

  44. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Gracie, you got it. His arrogance won’t permit dissention and he is not to be questioned. After all he has “power”. LOL. Of course only a very little man would think in such a manner-especially one who purports to be so self assured. His insecurities are very transparent to those he can’t fool- and there are many of us.

  45. knight owl said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Mr.Sheaffer, Sir your a class act all the way~~ Thank you ~~

  46. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    FLpossum: I agree. If there were a real objection to the Judge’s actions, why wasn’t the motion filed when the action occurred? It was a ploy for sure. I think it was one hatched by mason myself….I don’t think baez is smart enough to think of it, but who knows. He may be smarter than I think and he is just acting stupid to throw us off…LOL.

    As for MD, I could care less what he does. I brought him up in response to a question on the previous blog as to whether there were two people named frankie…which there are. I, however, do not post on that blog but the other Frankie does.

    Gracie: I too wonder if LE has this video. I assume that they do. I can’t imagine anyone not responding to Caylee in the video. I just find it odd and creepy.

  47. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    frankie, that video still baffles me. It was very inappropriate and the fact that whoever shot it had no dialogue with Caylee is just plain weird. I don’t think she knew the first thing about interacting with her daughter. I’m sure it runs in the family. As far as I could see, there was absolutely no purpose to it.

  48. NosyParker said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    East Coast Deb and Frankie, Mr. Sheaffer has graciously posted his thoughts on the latest in the court case of the Murder of Caylee Anthony. I hope I’m not being too presumptuous to point out he did not post about Marinade Dave or about Casey’s camera skills/intentions when she silently filmed her baby, which we’ve all seen a long time ago and have all been disgusted (a long time ago).

    Do you have any comments that pertain to the content of Mr. Sheaffer’s latest post?

  49. knight owl said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Hi everyone, Frankie thanks for the video of Caylee eating breakfast. I had seen it before and i totally believe it is Casey taking these videos when you do not hear anyone saying a word other than Caylee. I don’t know if you saw the one where Casey is playing with Caylee, Cindy is making the video, even though Cindy says i am taping, i am taping, wanting George to be quiet, Geoge says to Caylee, Caylee Marie, Caylee Marie hi. Casey is just weird as always and even little baby Caylee knows she is by the looks she gives her. Stupid out in never never land Casey acts like she is taking videos of still life verses a child for pete’s sake. I used to video with a camcorder and at times i would be walking back or something to get a better view and forget to turn the camera off while adjusting and would be all over the place with it and get legs of chairs and swirl it around end up taping the ceiling. lamp shades, etc, and make people drunk trying to view it, lol, so i think Casey moved the camera around wrong and that is why she got Caylee in odd angles like this.

  50. McTavish said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    William, you are a class act my friend. Judge Stan Strickland fell in that same category. Now if they would all just let up on that innocent blogger. Just like you said, “Let it be.” So many people don’t even remember the name of the little girl so that says alot. Many thanks Bill…

  51. knight owl said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    Hi eastcoast deb.

  52. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    What in the world went on in that household????

  53. mixologist74 said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    IMO, the defense really screwed up with this motion. I’m not sure it was warranted at all, and they gave up a fairly lax judge in doing so. I don’t think the new judge is going to put up with all the defense’s shenanigans and I see a lot of new motions not being granted, and prior rulings will stand. I do wonder how long it’s going to take to have a trial now, if this is going to be a big setback or not.

  54. knight owl said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Frankie, you brought back Memories of beautiful Caylee with that video. I have seen it before but how sweet to see Caylee again. Thanks~~ oh i totally believe it is weird Casey videotaping her . To her Caylee was just an inadimate subject to practice her camera skills on which she had zero skills.

  55. NosyParker said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    I give up. Carry on with your agenda. Hate to break it to you bunch of geniuses (not), your diversionary tactics ain’t working.

  56. mixologist74 said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    Nosy, I wasn’t aware that you moderate this blog. If people get off topic, that’s up to Craig to decide and delete whichever comments he wishes.

  57. knight owl said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    excuse the second post on who is filiming Caylee. I thought the first one didn’t go through and wrote a shorter one second time. geez.

  58. knight owl said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    I Don’t believe this is OUR NosyParker commenting here being rude. Do you guys buy it is?

  59. Arkie3 said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    So nice to see that video with that sweet face. Havent watched it in a long time.

    I hope the new judge speeds up the process. He doesn’t have other cases so maybe there is hope.

  60. frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Knightowl: I sincerely hope you are correct.
    I posted the video as part of the discussion as to a possible attempt to create “reasonable doubt”. If one is developing a theory that the jail house letters were an effort to create reasonable doubt then it is entirely possible that in a premeditated murder scenario, the murderess may have been planting “evidence” for an unknown period of time.

    NosyParker: I think if you read further up, you will discover several posts that discuss the topic at hand. I do think, however, that we are not limited to discussions of only this particular motion. If however, we are limited to this very narrow topic, then certainly discussions of the “innocent” MD are pertinent as he was the supposed catalyst for the motion. Rest assured I will not take offense if you skip over any posts of mine that you feel are inappropriate.

  61. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Hi Knightowl it’s nice to see you.
    Nosy Parker, I’m so very sorry we haven’t carried out YOUR agenda. Please set us geniuses straight- NOT
    frankie, I don’t know what went on in that house but the entire family is sick

  62. Knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:01 am

    Hi Mix, your baby girl is gorgeous. I don’t think having the Judge change will set the trial back, as i think Judge Perry is a no nonsense kind of judge. Baez is screwed with this judge. He better be doing some fast learning how to write a correct motion for once in his life .

  63. mixologist74 said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:03 am

    Thank you Knight Owl :)

    The defense had better be on their “A” game, for sure, as this judge won’t put up with not being prepared when they arrive for a hearing.

  64. knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:03 am

    Hi Eastcoastdebb, thanks, always nice to see you too. I always like your intelligent posts. I wish the jealous crew would grow up.

  65. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:05 am

    McTavish, ‘the name of the little girl’ who you spoke of, was Caylee. You forgot to mention it. That says a lot.

  66. knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:08 am

    Frankie, you said what went on in that household? Indeed that is a great question. Caylee sure could tell us a lot if she were still here when she got a little older. Don’t ya just love Casey throwing the fam under the bus in her jh letter’s . it was worth the read.

  67. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:09 am

    Wishful thinking Knightowl. It ain’t happening. LOL

  68. nannab said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:10 am

    hi EC, Night.. and everyone.. Thank you Mr. Shaeffer

  69. frankie said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:10 am

    I do like to go back and look at some of the pictures/videos of Caylee, just as a reminder as to why this case occupies so much of my time.

  70. knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:10 am

    Mix, your welcome my friend. Craig is gonna kill me for being off topic but what is babies name?

  71. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:11 am

    Hi Nanna Are you cruising?

  72. mixologist74 said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:11 am

    We named her Keirsten Leighanne :)

  73. Curious said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:12 am

    My comments earlier are & were meant to address this particular issue only. It is not a comment on the warfare taking place in the blog world.

    It is very simple…Choose not to participate. This is about a little girl named Caylee who will never have the opportunity to grow up.Those who choose to represent themselves as a voice for justice for her , regardless of what side of the aisle they are on would do well to remember that.

    I firmly believe that Casey Anthony is responsible for this crime and in order to see justice served she must get a fair trial. I mean fair in the eyes of the law, the court of public opinion is one she has been tried and convicted , but she did that to herself by not reporting her daughter missing (because she was murdered by her mother), partying and entering a hot body contest, stealing from her friend, celebrating *Bella Vita*. Nothing Mr Baez et al can do or say will ever change those facts.

  74. nannab said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:12 am

    EC..yes, as always it seems..lol

  75. knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:13 am

    Moderator Craig, wanted to thank you too for sticking with us. Much Appreciated.

  76. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:14 am

    LOL Nanna. It’s good to get around.

  77. nannab said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Amen.. and *Bella Vita* is as permanent as one can get.. lol

  78. nannab said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:15 am

    EC.. but it wears me out when I am at work and can’t do anything about it.. I was grrrrrrrrrrrin all afternoon today…

  79. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Well said, Curious.

  80. knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:17 am

    Nannabj. Big hello to you too. When i see that bear avatar i say yippee it is our nannabj. always so good to see you. This blog is rolling fast or i am one. lol

  81. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:19 am

    LOL Nanna. It was an eventful day, wasn’t it?

  82. frankie said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:19 am

    Mr. Sheaffer explains that the defendant is the one who decides if this event would prevent a fair trial. casey probably just saw another chance to be snarky and haughtily ordered baez to file the motion. That possibly sheds some light on the “what was he thinking” question!

  83. nannab said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:19 am

    Knight.. always good to see you too..which isn’t very often anymore… we are still hangin in… right!! LOL

  84. knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:20 am

    Mix, Beautiful name. Love it.

  85. nannab said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:21 am

    EC.. lmbo..yes..you o.k.? sometimes I worry about you…

  86. knight owl said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:21 am

    eastcoastdebb, your right, not working. guess some will never grow up~~

  87. OTT said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:22 am

    McTavish, “Bill”? Are we all on first name basis? Craig, I apologize to Mr. Sheaffer, I did not know we had been instructed to call him Bill. Is that fine because Bill is a lot easier
    to spell. but I have never met him. Thanks

  88. LCoastMom said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Mr Sheaffer As always a pleasure to hear your take. With emotions running high right from day thirty-one, this case has been a trial for all concerned. Such a relief to sit back and let you put it all in perspective.

    Judge Strickland you will be missed; you were fair and you were Just. What more could anyone in Anthony’s shoes want? Oh, someone who doesn’t read the news or peek in on the occasional blog. Good luck with that.

    It is what it is. We’ll let it be.

  89. MoCutie said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:43 am

    FYI: McTavish=Snoopy

    That’s why she feels entitled to call Mr. Sheaffer by his given name.

  90. LCoastMom said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:51 am

    Frankie Thanks for the reminder, since some people are having trouble remembering that little girls name – maybe we should start each blog with a video of Caylee.

    Or maybe the person who called her ‘that little girl’ was referring to the way George and more so KC claimed to miss “that little girl”.

    That Caylee breakfast vid has always been one of the most disturbing of the bunch. what 3 minutes and 21 seconds of silence. Others where Caylee tried so hard to interact with the person behind the camera (KC usually) who never spoke. Poor sweetie.

  91. calisherrie said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:58 am

    All I have to say is…Well said!!!

  92. Bombshell said, on April 22, 2010 at 1:35 am

    As far as that video (Breakfast with Caylee) and many others with nobody talking….. I just want to say this, I have taken many videos and when I play them back I hate the sound of my own voice so I try not to speak in any of them while filming because
    1) My voice is a trainwreck
    2) I would rather listen to the subject I am video taping and not me

    With that said I honestly don’t see an issue with a few minutes of filming and no conversing back and forth. It happens!

    I would also like to add that in the full version of this video some braniacs were trying to say that caylee or someone else filming was saying “I kill” when in fact it was Cayle trying to say 1,2,3 cheese and then trying to sing “Twinkle twinkle little star” while raising her arms in the air. She did not seem to be frightened or unhappy in this video, she was just enjoying toast and juice and singing. I also think that the under the highchair segment someone was simply trying to get Caylee to look under like peek-a-boo. A lot of people want to see something that’s just not there. Yes ,whoever took a lot of these videos did not interact but like I said maybe they were trying to capture the child and only the child and not the sound of their own voice.

    With that said I do believe that Casey very well might have killed Caylee and I will rely on a Jury to decide that. I have my opinions and I do not think Casey is innocent AT ALL but stranger things have happened so let’s see. Casey for once in your life tell the truth to someone. Caylee deserves that no matter what your opinion of LE is. Just tell the truth.

  93. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:01 am

    Mc Tavish has the same ip as Snoopysleuth, mc tavish commented on my blog. So there is the reason she said Bill :)

    Mr Shaeffer, all this is perhaps normal procedure in a murder case.

    Still, I think the Beatles song: “HELP!” says it all. This can go on for years, how will it be prevented that the defense will find another way to make a Judge step down, again?
    All you need is love. But we all live in a yellow submarine.

  94. jordak44 said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:02 am

    Hi everyone..I don’t usually post,but wanted to see if everyone is aware that this new judge,,Judge Belvin Perry Jr. is the SAME judge who was on the grand jury..bet baez hates that..he was hoping to get a female judge I heard..jokes on him as now he has gotten another great judge,as was Judge Strickland.Hopefully, this will start things rolling faster now..have nice nite everyone..and again,,keep posting great post.

  95. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:05 am

    @Craig; How come I can’t post the link to the support thread for Judge Strickland on websleuths ?

  96. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:11 am

    “I Should Have Known Better” also an app. beatles song I suppose.
    Now this new judge, is he known to have convicted any suspect in a murdercase with similar sorts of evidence before, that anyone knows? And how did that go? A jury will say guilty or not guilty, but a judge has to say what punishment. Of course it doesn’t matter much, as it will be automatically appealed to an higher court if she is found guilty. Right?

  97. Ugh said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:56 am

    BOMBSHELL….you are totally correct. I have over 60 hrs of footage of my son…him only. What fun to sneak up on him and film him in his natural state. And that was def. a peek-a-boo moment under the high chair..only problem was, the camera couldnt fit. I really think people are overreacting. I am sure casey “liked” Caylee, but seeing as she was total devoid of motherly instincts, IMO, she just wasn’t plain stir crazy about her beautiful daughter like the rest of us moms are about our kids. We didnt kill them, after all.

  98. Hazaka said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:52 am

    I have been reading but not posting for a few weeks….. tiresome to read all the “conclusions” … anyway ….. it’s as if very few actually read Bill’s comment — just to reiterate a salient point: “That leads us to a discussion as to the propriety of the Defense attorneys filing a motion to disqualify Judge Strickland. Upon learning of the above incident, the Defense had no alternative but to disclose it to their client, Casey Anthony, and discuss with her the effect of same upon her, and, whether she still held the belief that she could receive a fair trial with Judge Strickland. If Casey Anthony reasonably feared that she could not, her Defense counsel is left with no other choice by to file a motion to disqualify the trial judge. Why is there no choice? Because, in the event that Ms. Anthony is convicted of murder, sentenced to death, and loses her first round of appeals, then subsequent appellate lawyers would attack the competency of her trial lawyers for their failure to raise the issue. Ultimately, if this attack were successful it would result in a reversal of her conviction and a new trial for Casey Anthony.”
    The defense did NOT CREATE this situation …. indeed, the judge did …. and he was wrong to acknowlege and comment on Dave’s blog. It’s as if….. “don’t confuse me with the facts,my mind is made up mentality”
    The judge was wrong before, but corrrect now.

  99. amazed said, on April 22, 2010 at 7:17 am

    Frankie, thanks for clearing that up, I thought I was losing it a bit!!!

    Glad that Mr. Sheaffer put up this new thread, we all know that he is exactly correct in what he posted, however it is a terrible shame that this had to happen, especially to a man of Judge Stricklands calibre and class. I’ll just leave the rest of that thought dwindling in the air.

    Personally, I don’t think Casey Anthony had a thing to do with the decision, it’s all Cheney Mason. For the first time in her life, CEO speech from George aside, she has absolutely NO power over anyone.

  100. Hazaka said, on April 22, 2010 at 7:35 am

    amazed ——————– you really think the blame is on Cheney? How about His Honor? ——- who can say ….JUDGE ITO ?????

  101. Snowy said, on April 22, 2010 at 8:08 am

    frankie said, on April 21, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    ********

    I know this has been an ongoing issue with so many and I certainly don’t condone it, yet it might be possible to have google cache pages removed at anyones? request. I didn’t have time to read it thoroughly but I think that is what it is saying. Maybe it might help anyone else that has had something publish they would rather not?

    http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=164734

    ********

    Hazaka: ….and he was wrong to acknowlege and comment on Dave’s blog.

    I feel that is misleading? J Strictland commented about MD’s blog, not on it. It might give others a wrong impression.

    Anyway maybe it might be easier for everyone to think of bloggers as renegade journalists (help explain MD) and commenters as rogue contributors. I think that thought puts us all in a class by ourselves..umm..sorry…makes us a class act. :-)

  102. Hazaka said, on April 22, 2010 at 8:10 am

    Snowy said —– sorry… I was a REAL JOURNALIST …….don’t buy into bloggers as journalists….. and my sense is …. just as a real JOURNALIST must be fair and even…. the judge should never had commented, acknowleged nor recognize the blog….. His Honor was wrong…… but, he has made it right….. re-read Bill’s commentary …… the defense had to do this ….

  103. Along for the Ride said, on April 22, 2010 at 8:21 am

    Mr. Sheaffer, why did Marinade Dave put up a blog just moments after your blog published of the video Let it Be with the words ‘thank you Carol’ referring to your wife?

    He appears to be embroidering a story quite similar in pattern to the story he tells about the judge calling him/lunching with him/(or not); dropping hints saying he telephoned ‘a prominent attorney’s wife’ and attempting a mysterious tone while simultaeneously spilling beans.

    He intimates your wife is a huge supporter of his blog?

    Thanks so much if you could clarify this; it feels like groundhog day.
    I know people repeat behaviors which are rewarded, so does this indicate the blogger is happy with the previous recent results of his ‘mysterious’ and inappropriate associations with ‘insiders’?

    Thanks so much for sticking with us, we might not be the most apt pupils, but we remain always your loyal fans! :D

  104. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 8:31 am

    ! Along for the ride, you make me shiver … No, I have decided this thing could not get stranger. Can’t be!

  105. amazed said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Hazaka, I don’t think I said fault, I was saying that as much as the motion states that Casey Anthony decided all this, I believe it was Cheney Mason. This incident in the courtroom, one I am sure that the Honorable Judge wishes had not happened, took place MONTHS ago. Jose Baez, Andrea Lyon, Linda Kenney Baden, and even the magnificent Macaluso never saw fit to “use” this. Suddenly this new kid on the block arrives, insults the Prosecution team in open court, belittles the Judge, ( you trust ME don’t you?) and voila! The irony is that this was definetly a more pro defense blog, or at least pro defendant and certainly Pro ANthony. But, according to the man in the mddle, (a great song choice for one of HIS new ventures perhaps), YOU work for the defense? You are the the Milsteads payroll, or so Mr. Knechel posted yesterday. Strange world in that mans head. He has now posted that he spoke with a prominent local attorney’s wife. Uncanny how he has what obviously are private unlisted #’s. AND the need to put it out there for all to see. I wonder what said attorney thinks of him doing the RSO thing to a man innocent of that charge?

  106. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Now would it not be funny if at the next motion hearing… someone brought in a crate of oranges and sat it on the Defense desk with a note that reads….
    FOR DR. LEE with a nice thank you letter “Thank you for accept this payment in advance”….. the freshest florida oranges available……

  107. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:37 am

    “media interviews, guest appearances on television shows and press conferences” as well as its “litany of motions.”
    I love these statements……
    I love the word he chose “litany”
    1.A liturgical prayer consisting of a series of petitions recited by a leader alternating with fixed responses by the congregation.
    2.A repetitive or incantatory recital…. like “Casey is a convicted FELON”

  108. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:43 am

    I admire Bill Sheaffer. I think it is quite possible that marinade is referring to Bill’s wife when he drones on about his quite spectacular phone-call, that has left him feeling absolved of any remorse he might have otherwise felt at the latest turn of events.

    If so, I would urge Mrs. Sheaffer to thoroughly investigate and learn just who it is that she is publicly supporting. I say publicly, because marinade won’t be able to keep the name of the prominent attorney’s wife under-wraps for long.

    Read between the lines, read the comments. You can’t have a full appreciation or knowledge of the man without doing so.

    I think most people normally look to those they admire to see who it is they are admiring themselves, aligning themselves with.

    Please don’t think that marinade has SO many detractors only because he never allowed for name calling of the Anthony family or the defense attorneys on his blog. That is nothing more than the party line and as far from the truth as you can get.

    That marinade is sexist to the nth degree is probably the nicest thing I can say about the man.

  109. amazed said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Sterling, it will be interesting to see if Judge Perry not only issues a gag order, but disallows cameras in the courtroom. Much as I would hate for that (no cameras) to happen, I would appreciate that fact that it would stop this defense team from their antics, as antics are the only way they can defend this woman. That is another thing that bothers me, why should Casey be treated differently, in their minds, because she is a woman? Isn’t murdering a defenseless child just as wrong if a young woman commits it, as it is if a man does? I think it’s worse, as this particular woman should have been willing to lose her OWN life to defend Caylees.

  110. Beast said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Amazed, I agree. It is beyond me how she did nothing while her daughter was “missing” for 31 days. The only thing that makes any sense is that she knew where caylee was all the time.

  111. jmlm said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:58 am

    Mr.Sheaffer, Sir your a class act all the way. Thank you. I think Judge Perry will be the defenses undoing. The SAO will prove kc Guilty. Caylee will have Justice.

  112. talking2much said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Knowwho

    I agree, IF Mrs. Sheaffer did speak to him I am sure it was out of kindness and she probably has no idea of his vile and disgusting comments about women so I would also encourage her to research these comments to assertain whether this is someone she would want to associate herself with, I would be very disapointed to learn she would approve of such language and i doubt she would.

  113. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:04 am

    KWYS – Since marinade dave wrote and did scathing, horrible things to Sirjef because he “crossed him”, and now the defense who “crossed him”, and has done and said bad things about many bloggers who don’t agree with him, one would be well advised not to write anything negative about him, or else! One skates on real thin ice around that loose cannon.

  114. stpetesmj said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Thank you Mr. Sheaffer for your time and explanation. I liked your choice of adjectives, as well.
    Too bad most of your readers missed the point about: “Let It Be”.

  115. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:11 am

    stpetesmj – we did not miss the point. We just did not agree with that point.

  116. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Thank you nom de plume. I appreciate your concern and understand quite well why you make the warning.

    I only hope that Mrs. Sheaffer will also take heed and realize that there really is something at play here with this man that is potentially(?) dangerous. For gosh sakes, he blogged during the recusal motion madness that he was going out to get a gun!!

    Is Mrs. Sheaffer’s name, Carol? If so, good grief, he’s outed her already!!

  117. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:15 am

    I have to say that since the indigency hearing and Mason’s claims after the hearing that he took this case on “because it will be fun” there has been little to no Cameo’s from the defense team member Baez. I also feel that Mason’s media statements prior to coming onto this case are bais and leading as to the guilt of Casey Anthony. How can you legally represent a client who has personally state publicly that the client is guilty?
    *****But the biggest red flag to me was when Mason asked Baez if he was lead council. When the state of Florida’s rules for representation of a capital case state “Lead council shall be given to a lawyer with DP background”
    To me his question and BAEZ’s smirk and response to that question could lead to an appeal and overturning any sentence handed down.

  118. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:19 am

    As can the prior statements made by Mason…. Lead to an appeal…..

  119. stpetesmj said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:19 am

    My bad…carry on!

  120. Along for the Ride said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Well, that’s just it..stpetesmj..
    There seem to be 2 different takes on just what “Let it be” entails?
    I posted from honest confusion, not to cause controversy, so don’t try to put me in a box of your personal design.
    The subject at hand is a blogger, Marinade Dave whose alleged ‘inappropriate friendship’ with Judge Strickland has resulted in the Judge recusing himself.
    When that blogger, Marinade Dave ‘responds’ (his word not mine) to Mr. Shaeffer’s blog within moments with a video of the same name and insinuates Mr. Schaeffer’s wife has commentary in support and the title Let it Be is a direct quote?; it is entirely relevant and natural I would like to know just WTH is going on as I am completely ‘at a standstill’ to quote Miss Anthony.

  121. GLEN said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Good Morning All

    Welcome back Mr Shaffer, I have been waiting to see what your thoughts were on all of the happenings in this case.

    I feel for Judge S, but in the next breath I am glad to see Judge Perry come aboard.

    There will be no more games, he will have the follow the letter of the law as a straight arrow.

    Frankie thanks for the video, we all need to keep this little angel in our minds and heart.

    Mr Shaffer, with the the way this defence is processing her defence , is there any way that Casey can claim that her own attys. were incompetent to get a new trial. They seem to have a lot of competency situations.

  122. GLEN said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:27 am

    Remember when Mason first came in and he walked up to the Judge’s bench and they talked , I wonder what that was all about…

    MD I do not read is blog,(I did once) he is as nasty as some one can be, and when you do not aggree with him, he will not post your remarks(a little one sided for me)I do not know him in person , but I do not think I would like him at all.

    We will see what happens in this Perry-Mason trial.

  123. denjet said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Thank you, Mr. Shaeffer! I was pleased to read your opinion of Judge Strickland’s response and the comments he included … I am glad that Strickland included his comments in response to the cruel, unnecessary and false allegations made in the motion against him. Given the publicity and sleazy manor in which this motion was filed, I feel it left him no choice but to speak up for himself and against the accusations.
    Had Judge Strickland NOT commented or included his opinion, what would this have said to lawyers in future cases? He needed to set the record straight and defend his reputation and I think he did that eloquently and pointedly ….
    Judge Strickland’s response/comments and the fact that Judge Perry taking over the case was the result of this horrible attack should be a huge warning to lawyers in the future taking this tactic to bully a judge, especially one of Judge Strickland’s caliber!!

  124. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Along for the ride, I agree completely with your point.

    The marinade video, “Let it Be,” dovetails perfectly with the theme of this blog – although I would be surprised if when Mr. Sheaffer turned the phase for this piece, he hadn’t meant for it to encompass more than marinade’s involvement – so, if Mrs. Sheaffer, the wife of a prominent Orlando attorney is in fact, “Carol,” then words of caution as to whom it is she is seen to be supporting become relevant in my mind.

  125. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:57 am

    I have been wondering the same thing – how in the world can Mason effectively defend her, when he had previously made his stance quite clear? The parents can flip flop, but the attorney is quite a different matter, I would think.

    KWYS – I wasn’t speaking of you (or me — I say plenty!). I was inferring that it was very wise of Mr. Shaeffer not to set himself up as a target. If he went after you and me, it wouldn’t be newsworthy – would not get him in the lights where he enjoys being! He has not been in the news for what he did to Sirjef and the other bloggers, but, in my opinion, he well should be!

  126. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:01 am

    All that I’m saying is give peace a chanc…ooops, no, that’s wrong, “know who it is (really know) who it is you support,” because I know, without reading the blog, in-depth, it’s so very easy to be “hoodwinked” (to use a term bandied about quite often of late).

  127. Angela said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:04 am

    I am glad the judge and prosecution are doing as they deem fit and responsible to ensure this woman who clearly murdered her child does not get away with it on a mere technicality. I think that was in the forefront of Judge Strickland’s mind when he wrote his order.

  128. Snowy said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:09 am

    nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:57 am

    I believe Atty Mason made those remarks (his opinion at the time) about her possible guilt before he was privy to defense ‘secrets’ (evidence). So either the evidence changed his mind or fame & fortune did. Has anyone ventured a guess as to the type of expert witness the defense may use in their strategy (the type they feel will reveal their true strategy if made public)? It must be a type other than those already listed on the prosecution’s list. Anyone want to play guess the strategy?

  129. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Snowy, your explanation makes sense. Guess their strategy? Would not even begin to try, but if anyone comes up with a viable strategy, the defense might steal it!

  130. Lori said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:18 am

    Mr. Sheaffer– I thought your article was very well written and extremely informative. I have followed this case from the beginning and do not post very much but love to read. I’m compelled to write today because one of the posts by Curious is just what I have been thinking and wondering if there is anyone that can finally see through the façade that, IMO, is Mr. Knechel. Frankly, I think many, many do but the proper authorities do not or some action would already have been taken.

    I know you are a very busy man and this is not what the Caylee case should be about but…I wonder if there is any Florida news station that could possibly investigate that blog thoroughly and perhaps some action should be taken. Curious’s remarks are right on, IMO. However, to just ignore this, at this point, would be wrong. There is so much more to this story than what happened to Judge Strickland. I truly believe that if Judge Strickland had read the blogs and the comments associated with them, his disrespect, his threatening to reveal personal information of people who disagree with him, revealing emails sent to him by a woman he’s angry with to embarrass, the posting of a person’s name under the picture of a sexual predator, the urging to his followers to email or call the private investigator who interviewed him to harass…(childish and dangerous behavior) the list goes on an on, he wouldn’t have singled him out. I believe but am not sure he has deleted many of these posts/comments because of fear of scrutiny but I’m sure they can be recovered by those who have kept them. If not illegal, many of this person’s actions are certainly disgusting and extremely unethical. Free speech is one thing but this person, IMO, has stepped over lines and continues to do so. I guess what disgusts me the most is that he is not accountable for his actions and continues the same day after day. Also, it is the ‘fair and balanced’ act that is hypocrisy at it’s finest. You seem like a fair man and, as such, you will see that he is not as he tries to appear at all.

    Just wondering if you or Craig might be able to give some insight into the proper way to investigate what’s really going on over there before anyone else is affected badly. Also, I mean no disrespect to you (I believe he may be your friend or your wife’s friend) but am appealing to you on a professional level. Didn’t know where else to ask this.

    Thank you very much and sorry for straying from the real issue, Caylee Marie.

  131. talking2much said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Lori, that post is directly on point. Thank you for asking all the correct questions., now if only a member of the media would ask them.

  132. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Yes, Lori! Great post. I am sure Craig reads the posts, but maybe someone will email him and ask him to specifically review your post. Many would appreciate.

    Yes, we are all here, first and foremost, in the fight for little Caylee, but as the old saying goes, it is really hard to keep focused on draining the pond, when you are up to your ass in alligators.

  133. Lizabutt said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:57 am

    I’m so glad to see you post on your blog again. I check for it daily.
    The Duhfense could have done without the excess paperwork in their motion. It just shows their true colors. I have to disagree with those that didn’t like Judge Stricklands response. I loved it and thought it was classic and well deserved. He had put up with the three stooges antics for some time now and still been patient and fair. They deserved everything they got and some.
    The attorney’s wife MD speaks of could be Nejames wife couldn’t it? I don’t know but I would have thought MD learned his lesson. Evidently not, or he is just wanting his 15 minutes no matter what it does to someone else. He needs to keep his mouth shut.
    I hope Judge Perry reams the Duhfense a new one right off the bat. All prior motions stand. Put their feet and butts to the flame. I have to say this biting them in the butt is better than other senarios.
    Please keep posting Mr. Sheaffer it’s the only real information we get that’s not one sided.

  134. I Say said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    New Casey Anthony judge sets April 30 hearing

    Perry, the chief judge, decided to take the case.

    Perry asked attorneys from both sides to come prepared to:

    Discuss discovery and scheduling deadlines.

    Discuss future motion deadlines.

    Discuss motions that are still pending.

    And discuss pre-trial and trial dates.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-handwriting-20100422,0,5595910.story

  135. talking2much said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Thanks, I say, sounds like Judge Perry is ready to get down to business.

  136. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    Yippee! Now the wagon has wheels and the show is getting on the road!

  137. I Say said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    He also asked attorneys to provide him a list of motions that will require evidentiary hearings and those based on pleadings and to give courtesy copies to the court of future motions.

    Perry also put attorneys on notice about how their behavior in court: He asked that they “familiarize themselves with the Ninth Judicial Circuit Courtroom Decorum Policy” and follow it “at all times.”
    —————–

    Does this mean that Andrea Lyon’s law students are going to be really busy next week? Jose doesn’t have a clue as to what motions he plans to introduce. He is too busy hiding from Kathy Belich.

  138. Doug Wollenburg said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Now that the Hon. Judge Strickland is no longer involved with the Anthony debacle, can the complaint he filed against Baez move forward ?

    I hope taxpayer funds didn’t go to pay the P.I. to investigate the Judge…But what else would they need a P.I. for ?
    1) Finding out about Casey’s past ?
    2) Finding out who Caylee’s father is ?
    3) Finding out about the Anthony’s family life ?
    4) Finding all the phones Casey had and who really owned them ?
    5) Finding out what she did with Caylee every day while not working ?
    …etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…etc…

    No, let’s investigate the Judge and anyone else who had nothing to do with a crazy family’s murder/cover-up.

  139. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Along for the Ride, I noted quickly too just how fast MD began his gloating. I’d also like to point out that MD was boasting that some don’t know of his ‘power’ on his blog prior to Mr. Sheaffer putting up the new post. MD’s transparency is obvious and laughable.
    Ina, I agree with the analogy from the Beatles, “Help”. I was thinking more along the lines of ‘Helter Skelter”

  140. Inky said, on April 22, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    i do believe it was “mason” that is the one that sought to get rid of Judge Strickland, Bozo just ain’t that insightful…and “mason” fits right in with the BS of the defense. i am so NOT impressed with “mason” ..he thinks this case is gonna be “fun” and him and skanko are gonna walk out into society arm in arm..i do believe, and allow me to quote mr. mason…here..
    ~~~~~~~~
    Defense attorney Cheney Mason said claims made by Casey Anthony and Baez that Caylee was alive will now work against them at trial.
    “Then all the talking, all the press interviews and the parents going on this show and that show and the lawyer going on different shows establishes they have no credibility whatsoever,” Mason said.

  141. Inky said, on April 22, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    “You can pretty well predict there’s going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life,” Mason said.

    this dude is a joke.. mason…get a real job.

  142. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    I know you are a very busy man and this is not what the Caylee case should be about but…I wonder if there is any Florida news station that could possibly investigate that blog thoroughly and perhaps some action should be taken. Curious’s remarks are right on, IMO. However, to just ignore this, at this point, would be wrong. There is so much more to this story than what happened to Judge Strickland. I truly believe that if Judge Strickland had read the blogs and the comments associated with them, his disrespect, his threatening to reveal personal information of people who disagree with him, revealing emails sent to him by a woman he’s angry with to embarrass, the posting of a person’s name under the picture of a sexual predator, the urging to his followers to email or call the private investigator who interviewed him to harass…(childish and dangerous behavior) the list goes on an on, he wouldn’t have singled him out. I believe but am not sure he has deleted many of these posts/comments because of fear of scrutiny but I’m sure they can be recovered by those who have kept them. If not illegal, many of this person’s actions are certainly disgusting and extremely unethical. Free speech is one thing but this person, IMO, has stepped over lines and continues to do so. I guess what disgusts me the most is that he is not accountable for his actions and continues the same day after day. Also, it is the ‘fair and balanced’ act that is hypocrisy at it’s finest. You seem like a fair man and, as such, you will see that he is not as he tries to appear at all.

    Just wondering if you or Craig might be able to give some insight into the proper way to investigate what’s really going on over there before anyone else is affected badly. Also, I mean no disrespect to you (I believe he may be your friend or your wife’s friend) but am appealing to you on a professional level. Didn’t know where else to ask this.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I would like to say that I stand with Lori on this serious matter. Only yesterday Dave Knechel published my own private information while at the same time naming me a slut. I’ve been told he deleted it today. I’m not going to check. Many, many other women have been labelled as such by Mr. Knechel.

    Like Lori, I am most curious how this blogger continues to involve himself and instigate his few regulars to practise in, if not an illegal manner, then at least an unethical one!

    Thank you for any advice you would be willing to divulge us!

  143. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    With the above, aside . . . I’d like to say thank you for saying what someone had to and of course no one could be more eloquent!

    It was always apparent that Judge Strickland enjoyed himself at the bench very much and it is such a shame to have this bitter taste at his leaving this case. I’m glad there are good and respected men like yourself speaking out about it and I’m sure it is so important to his family, too.

  144. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    “Jose doesn’t have a clue as to what motions he plans to introduce.” Or, I would suspect, where to put his hands on a copy of the, “Ninth Judicial Circuit Courtroom Decorum Policy!!”

  145. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    knowwho, it’s going to do our poor hearts some good I think to watch Jose bumbling around Perry’s courtroom. I’m wondering if Baez will finally sit down and let the big guys talk (Cheney, Linda DB, Ashton). Jose could be the one who babysits Casey.

  146. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    http://www.ninthcircuit.org/programs-services/court-resource-center/decorum-policy.shtml
    Guess what …… maybe we should forward this to Baez…..

  147. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    He wouldn’t read it. He think’s he’s the cat’s meow.

  148. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Better yet….. maybe not…. yet….. I do get a good laugh at watching Baez bumbling… wonder how many times he will go…ummmm hummmm wellllll ehhhhhh
    A good lawyer does not need to search for a word

  149. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Now don’t be angry for not knowing this, but what happend, has professor Lyon left the case? If she did, I missed that part. When is the next hearing, is that known ?

  150. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Bees Knees, I saw that, it was characteristically, particularly nasty. I do believe however that the comment is now deleted. Still remaining though is one in which he swept you and several others up in his comment, “women are ready to kill people over this. I wouldn’t doubt if BEES KNEES and her lot would do such a thing.”

    I find these types of vitriolic comments especially concerning. This is a person who, for a moment, recently took center stage with the judge in this case and is now (still) singing to the rooftops about his bitter resentment of the Casey Anthony defense team. I don’t know how that is NOT relevant.

  151. I Say said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Ina, look at my post at 12:35 PM today upthread.

  152. Nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    I stand with Lori and Bees Knees. I just read on his blog he (MD) commented the whole message of the post above was to clear him of wrongdoing. He inferred this is the only reason Mr. Shaeffer posted. Right above the video of “Let it be” he thanked “Carol”. I cannot believe that was the purpose of the post by Mr. Shaeffer. I think Mr. Shaeffer is trying to calm the masses and get back to business at hand, but MD has just gone too far to be ignored. When your house is on fire, you don’t ignore it and hope it will go away.

  153. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Thanks, I say. “Judge Belvin Perry set an April 30 date for a status hearing, and he serves notice in his order that he expects an orderly, professional case.” Status hearing the word says it all I suppose. A new Status Quo. ?

  154. amazed said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    Dave Knechel is not relevant.. In the long run, he will never be remembered fondly by anyone but the women who are lonley enough to spend hours a day bowing down to him and accepting everything he does .

    Over the years there have been many cases of women who have chosen to blindly follow a man off the edge of a cliff, this group is no different. It’s just strange to see older women doing it.

  155. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Mr Sheaffer, “…should we castigate Marinade Dave for blogging?” “No.”

    It sounds so fair.

    Now, if you look at what happend to the judge, I think the fact that David Knechel lied about his friendship with the judge, on his blog, about lunching and the phonecalls, was the main reason the Judge had to go, not that compliment that actually did happen. So can we castigate Marinade Dave for not quite being honest? Yes!

  156. I Say said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Amazed,

    Twenty years ago the elderly didn’t nor wouldn’t have anything to do with computers. Now it is their way to keep in touch with family, the grands and great grands. Sadly some have also found MD as did SS. Some elderly women have soft hearts and are easily duped especially if they spend a lot of lonely hours at home or in a nursing home. It takes up their time when the Soaps are over for the day. Sad but true.

  157. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    I also stand with Lori, Bees Knees and Nom de Plume regarding this matter. I have copied and sent many of these offending remarks made by MD to REAL journalists. Now that he has inserted himself into the public eye, he needs to be scrutinized more closely. This man has lied repeatedly and based on his ‘credibility’ (and I use this term loosely) a judge and a good man has had his name and reputation tarnished. Without a doubt, MD’s lies ARE relevent , and his questionable and erratic behavior should be examined.

  158. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    My response to, ““women are ready to kill people over this. I wouldn’t doubt if BEES KNEES and her lot would do such a thing,” would be that, in fact, he is the one that has my full name, my full address, a recently-purchased handgun, a volatile personality and has already shown us he is not opposed to breaking the laws. He’s got me at a disadvantage. I would also say that months and months go by without any discussion of him and he still throws my name around so I don’t know what would make him stop when ignoring or responding doesn’t work.

    I am however uncomfortable in bringing this here as it really is none of Bill Sheaffer’s concern and I would ask if we could continue this discussion over on BAB’s which I think was set up for this very reason. See ya there!

  159. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    (Not quite sure what castigate means, it is not the thing with the testicals I think?)

  160. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Hey gals, thanks. I know you’ve all been his targets, too. I think this is a good place for wemon to come together and see who feels the same way since it started here but maybe for the discussion we could do that at BAB’s? Or not. What do you all think?

  161. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Bees I don’t know what BAB is. When I went to where you went yesterday, and tried to make a comment, a page came up stating ‘discarded’.

  162. I Say said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    No Ina, it is castrate. But, not to worry about Dave, his nads have been useless for many years.

    Bees, I agree but I had to do it. It’s the devil in me. :wink:

  163. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    “I am however uncomfortable in bringing this here as it really is none of Bill Sheaffer’s concern and I would ask if we could continue this discussion over on BAB’s which I think was set up for this very reason. See ya there!”

    Only thing with that is, it takes the discussion out of the main stream. I will repeat, this man recently took center stage with the former judge in this case. He’s out for defense blood and he has a demonstrable, archived, “mean streak” and lust for revenge. I personally think that is newsworthy to prominent Orlando attorneys and journalists alike.

    No offense to the web site, Bald Ain’t Beautiful.

  164. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Ida let me get this straight…. its alright to casterate am man for lying but not okay to put a child murderer to death…..
    If you casterate MD then any future children he may have with his ‘ladies’ might be at stake…..
    either way… a waste …..a huge waste…..
    or did I just read your last too posts wrong?
    If I did I am truly sorry… if not we can all laugh…. as the irony of it all….

  165. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    I know, I say. I’m guilty of the same thing. Some days it’s easier to ignore than others. Totally understandable.

    ECDeb here’s a link to BAB’s. It’s not visited as often unfortunately so if you’re hoping for quick responses it likely won’t happen like it does here. The reason I suggested moving it is I’m just loathe to BSheaffer feeling in anyway that he’s in the middle or we’re hoping for a mediator or anything like that.

    Lori, asked him if there is any Florida news station that could possibly investigate that blog thoroughly and perhaps some action should be taken and I think that’s a fair question but I’m wondering Lori if you contacted Kathi Belich, she would likely have a better idea. Here’s her link if you want it. JMHO.

    kathi.belich@wftv.com

  166. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    That’s a really good point knowwhoyousupport.

  167. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Well maybe we can ask Craig what his thoughts are in us raising it here and dealing with it here. As long as he’s okay with it, I’m totally fine.

  168. Curious said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    It is very simple…Choose not to participate. This is about a little girl named Caylee who will never have the opportunity to grow up.Those who choose to represent themselves as a voice for justice for her , regardless of what side of the aisle they are on would do well to remember that.

    CHOOSE not to participate, why is everyone feeding his fire and ego? Stop talking about him. His 15 minutes are over.

  169. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    ECDeb, here’s the link to BAB’s blog. It runs the gamut from silly to intense.

    http://baldaintbeautiful.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/yes-snoopy-from-canada/

  170. Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    I think you can have beef with marinade anywhere really.

  171. judypc said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Alrighty then… Judge Perry has spoken!!

    He has set a meeting this next week, were he will lay down the LAW!!

    Said he wants the lawyers to BE READY to gooooooo.

  172. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Curious, you’re right. It should be simple, but it becomes more personal when it is your name being used. If you all feel like you’re willing to let it go this time, I’m okay with that. Right now I gotta run. The iron is heating up and I have someone here to brand my forehead with a scarlet letter. OUCH!!!! The crazy runs deep in this case.

  173. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Judy, I’m wondering if this is what it’s going to take to get Bozo to sit DOWN and shut up. Do you see him being demoted to Casey’s babysitter while Foghorn gets to stand up and talk to the grown-ups from now on?

  174. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Sterling, Ina only asked if castigate meant the same as castrate. I am very sure she was just joking; at least I found it pretty funny!

    Bees – you have a good point about this MD flap on this blog, but I think the words carry more weight here than at an MD bashing blog. Or at least they may likely be read more here. To me, the very very least MD could do is apologize to the people he wronged, but that is not his MO. He can only render apart and trash the people who pee down his touch hole. (Again, that is not kinky – it is Hinky!)

  175. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    nom, true, true . . .

    I love that quirky and slightly offensive, “angels peeing down touchholes” ~ forever to be a classic Hink-ism(??) Ha ha ha ha . . .

  176. mixologist74 said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I have to agree with Curious. This is like beating a dead horse. The more people talk about him, the more infamous he becomes.

  177. judypc said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    BEES KNEES:

    I think the Judge is going to lay down the ground rules, and this will be their one and only leason.

    I do not think Judge Perry is one to put up with a bit of foolishness.
    I think he expects to hear where the lawyers are at this point, and I think team Casey may be put on notice to get this case moving.

    Also, Judge Perry just might move that court date up, as he is not bound by Judge Stricklands timeframe.

    Needless to say if team Casey shows up in court again with the lame excuse oh the paper work in back at the office.. they will not be treated so kindly.

    I see Perry letting one and all know he is the one large and in charge, play time is over boys and girls, we are in my sandbox now and you will do as I say.

  178. judypc said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    I also think he is going to be a bit miffed that in a year and a half team casey has yet to do anything in regard to this case, no depo’s, nadda, nuttin, when they are ask yo show where they are in this case I think the steam may blow from his honors ears.

    All they have to show is almost 3 hundred grand pissed away on foolery, some piss poor motions, some finger pointing, and a crate of rotten oranges they tried to use as payment.

  179. Eastcoastdebb said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Thanks Bees.

  180. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    McTavish said, on April 21, 2010 at 11:37 pm
    William, you are a class act my friend. Judge Stan Strickland fell in that same category. Now if they would all just let up on that innocent blogger. Just like you said, “Let it be.” So many people don’t even remember the name of the little girl so that says alot. Many thanks Bill…

    **********
    McTavish = Snoopysleuth

  181. Lanie said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:53 pm “I am however uncomfortable in bringing this here as it really is none of Bill Sheaffer’s concern and I would ask if we could continue this discussion over on BAB’s which I think was set up for this very reason. See ya there!”

    Only thing with that is, it takes the discussion out of the main stream. I will repeat, this man recently took center stage with the former judge in this case. He’s out for defense blood and he has a demonstrable, archived, “mean streak” and lust for revenge. I personally think that is newsworthy to prominent Orlando attorneys and journalists alike.

    No offense to the web site, Bald Ain’t Beautiful.

    ___________________________

    I agree 100% we need to put just enough into mainstream to make future victims aware of what YKW is capable of.

  182. Lanie said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    (Poem Why JS Was Removed)

    IT’S YOUR FAULT.
    IT’S YOUR FAULT.

    YOU KNOW IT
    YOU KNOW IT

    U HATE WOMEN
    CALL THEM SLU**

    U LOVE MEN
    CALL THEM STUDS

    THE ONE TIME
    MEETING IN COURT

    IS NOT WHY
    JS IS GONE

    IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT
    FOR LIES, BRAGGING
    AFTER COURT HEARING

    AFTER MEETING
    JS IN COURT

    U LIED ABOUT LUNCH
    U LIED ABOUT CALL

    U PUT LIES OUT
    4 ALL TO READ

    YOU MET WITH
    DEFENSE WHY?

  183. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    I’m expecting that reaction from Perry, too. We’ve all been waiting a loooooong time for somebody to put Bozo in his place ~ I’m really counting on seeing that. I’ll be heart-broken if he doesn’t allow cameras in the court.

    Judy, do you think we’ll get fresh docs tomorrow? Have you heard anything?

  184. Lanie said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    BATTLE OF THE MEDIA WHORES-
    http://www.thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/

  185. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Lanie, this latest move got a lot of attention on other blogs and it was not positive attention. People love Judge Strickland and were fierce in their defense of him and their loyalty to him. No one wanted to see this happen. Even the people that are eager to see this case under Judge Perry (as I am) did not want to see him leave with this on his record. It’s not a good moment for him.

  186. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Lanie – that is beautiful.

    Bees – I have mixed feelings about cameras in the court- of course I want to see it, but no cameras could cut down on the circus aspect. No one could accuse Judge Perry of being an Ito, and people who love the cameras would be heartbroken not to be seen.

  187. OTT said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Mr. Sheaffer, Is that a big Rottweiller sitting on your lap? Looks friendly, but i wouldn’t
    try to pet it.

  188. Lanie said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    I agree Bees Nees & It’s awful what he’s done to a really nice lady like yourself. Like someone mentioned it’s not against the law & no reason to go for someone’s blood because you don’t like YKW. It makes the ill feelings toward him more intense when he over reacts & says some are out to kill him & other nonsense, drama queen.

  189. Brianna said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Anyone with half a brain knows that the one time court room introduction wouldn’t have gotten JS removed. It’s the incessant bragging, lies about how chummy the 2 were afterward,

    The Ode To YKW poem that after months was just removed, the perplexing decision to let the defense into your home to ‘be interviewed’. He begged this to happen because he was feeding that huge ego, which where it comes from who knows. Maybe an inferiority complex in disguise.

    No looks, no job, foul disposition, mentally unstable. Nothing going for him except his misguided notion that he’s a talented writer, which for God sake, he’s not. He always writes inappropriate articles with cringe inducing titles that make me gag. All about him, not about the supposed subject, all about how things affect him, not others mainly Caylee Marie Anthony.

    YKW is 100% to blame & he knows it. In Sessions blog refers to You Know Who as YKW, guess they don’t love him there either.

  190. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    so in Judge Perry’s motion he got his point across…..
    not only fimiliarize themselves with the rules in the court room .. but he sent them a copy of it… I busted out laughing… talk about point -match- win!
    Yes I know that Ina was joking…. I was too…..

  191. Along for the Ride said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    ……re Curious’ comment:
    It is very simple…Choose not to participate. This is about a little girl named Caylee who will never have the opportunity to grow up.Those who choose to represent themselves as a voice for justice for her , regardless of what side of the aisle they are on would do well to remember that.
    CHOOSE not to participate, why is everyone feeding his fire and ego?
    ….

    I am really irked when commenters tell me what subjects are allowable to comment upon here or query.
    I asked a legitimate, relevant question upthread and am hoping Mr. Schaeffer will answer it for me.
    Please refrain from imposing your own agendas or morality on me. I never called for an investigation nor do I care a whit what happens to Mr. Marinade.
    Feel free to conduct yourself as you wish and comment on whatever subject interests you. Please do not lecture me. I am not a ‘voice for justice’; I have no such lofty ambitions.
    I am meerly a commenter on a blog and don’t appreciate being told what to do by a fellow commenter. This is not a memorial blog as Craig has pointed out many times..this is a legal blog and Mr. Schaeffer is providing us with insight into the ongoing trial.
    I’m truly not trying to be unfriendly, but honestly, I find your unsolicited advice bossy and moralistic.
    I will follow my own inner compass, thank you very much.

  192. Brianna said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    amazed said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:22 pm Dave Knechel is not relevant.. In the long run, he will never be remembered fondly by anyone but the women who are lonley enough to spend hours a day bowing down to him and accepting everything he does .

    Over the years there have been many cases of women who have chosen to blindly follow a man off the edge of a cliff, this group is no different. It’s just strange to see older women doing it.
    ________________________________

    Charles Manson & The Night Strangler come to mind. They got marriage propsals from lonely desperate women.

  193. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    nom, if I knew it would hurt the case to have them there I’d agree with losing them. I just feel so spoiled now with the Sunshine Law and seeing everything right away. I would have really appreciated a Gag Order right from the start and I believe the Prosecution wanted one but the Defense fought against it. It’s all about the cameras and expensive suits and hair jelly. Did you know that leaving the courthouse you can go out the front where the media gathers or you can go out the back where there is none? This is what I’ve heard at least. Has anybody here been there? I think there was another blogger who was going to the hearings. Very under the radar though, not looking for interviews etc. ~ low-keyed.

  194. thejbmission said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Mr. Sheaffer,
    Considering the obvious, that Casey Anthony will be granted a change of venue motion, will this mean that Judge Perry would preside even outside of Orlando county.
    Does he pack up like the defense and SAO’s?
    Silly question, I know but I’d like to know how that works.
    Thank you,
    aka Curious Dee

  195. Brianna said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    IMO MD has everything to do with the latest fiasco of JS being removed. To not ackowledge that fact & disagree with MD’s despicable actions imo would be to deny the reality of the situation.

    He made himself part of the case, that was his goal, like Joy Wray, insert thyself for some weird gratification.

  196. BEES KNEES said, on April 22, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    I haven’t seen much talk about the letters anywhere today which is a shame because in throwing us off the letters and into the Judge story the defense is getting what they wanted. If we get docs tomorrow that’ll get us back, focused.

  197. sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Bees….
    Have you ever taken Casey’s jailhouse letters and counted how many times she says “I”
    compared to how many times she mentioned her daughter.

  198. pageme1 said, on April 22, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Well…someone over at the MD site chewed his butt up about the way he treats woman.
    He just let her have it back and said that people over here are
    “talking up his testicles.” YEEWWWW
    Are you guys talking up his testicles? If so then that is disgusting and must stop now. LMFBO
    Good for the DQ person who spoke up. She was right!

  199. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Yes, Bees, I did go to one hearing (check fraud). I have never been out the back way, the front way has a side walk that leads to the parking garage, but you know there has to be a back way out. Funny you should mention the blogger that goes to the hearings – that is none other than the now famous Sirjef. MD sat next to him; he later commented that MD smells, and that is what caused him to try to destroy Sir. His only purpose was to go to the hearings and sit on the side of the prosecution so Caylee could be represented since her family does not represent her. He is very fervent in his cause for Caylee.

    Sterling, that is the first time I heard about Judge sending defense a copy of the rules. LOVE it!

  200. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    I should point out that Sirjef has never posted at MDs blog. That comment was made in another blog, Dave eavesdropped and heard something bad about his bad self!

  201. Brianna said, on April 22, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    mixologist74 said, on April 22, 2010 at 3:25 pm I have to agree with Curious. This is like beating a dead horse. The more people talk about him, the more infamous he becomes.

    _______________________

    Why is it always the ones who still post at the sh**hole that say quit talking about him? Same as defending his actions. You’d love us to quit holding his feet to the fire, ain’t gonna happen. Mr. Insert Yourself did it. We have opinions, you have yours.

  202. Nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    I notice mixologist said “the more infamous he becomes” like infamous is a good thing! NOT

  203. mixologist74 said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    I never said infamous was a good thing, did I?

    I might post there, but it does NOT mean that I support some of the things he’s said. I have said to MD on his blog that two wrongs don’t make a right, and that he should just drop it. Of course, it was addressed, but the advice not heeded.

  204. Beast said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    A lot of advice has not been heeded, for example the title of this article. But for the entire day guess what the topic has been, I had hoped it had changed by now but apparently not. sigh

  205. mixologist74 said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    No, and it won’t be as long as the topic of conversation on MD’s blog is about what people over here are saying about him, and his rebuttals to such. It’s a vicious circle and unless one of the parties stops, it’s gonna keep going like the damned Energizer bunny.

  206. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    “I have to agree with Curious. This is like beating a dead horse. The more people talk about him, the more infamous he becomes.”

    Or maybe, different thought, the more people are enlightened to the truth of the matter, they may just start to back away – stop giving their support and maybe THEN his 15 minutes will truly be over. My gosh people, he just recently gushed about Mr. Sheaffer’s wife’s support of him.

    I will take an awfully bold step here, but I have got to believe that if Mrs. Sheaffer was in tune with the truth of the matter, her support of him would be non-existent!! Like I said earlier, Marinade, is an over-the-top sexist, and that is one of the kindest things I can say about him (he would also have to erase his entire blog pretty much, to erase evidence of that).

    We can stop talking if that makes everyone feel more comfortable, but it won’t stop him. What’s next? I don’t know, but it will have something to do with this case because that is his focus.

  207. C said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    I thought this was the topic. The man who turned on JS.

  208. Laurlee said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Beast said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:27 pm A lot of advice has not been heeded, for example the title of this article. But for the entire day guess what the topic has been, I had hoped it had changed by now but apparently not. sig

    Mr. Atheist, do we have to agree with Mr. Sheaffer. This subject very much includes Dave Knechel infamous mysoginist.

    He’s unfortunately part of the case now because he inserted himself for all the wrong reasons. None of them was justoice for ‘that liitle girl’ as the A’s like to call her. Caylee

    Anthony.

  209. Laurlee said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    Well I don’t agree with either “Curiois” or Beast so I’ll choose not to ignore the elephant in the room–one Dave Knechel–who inserted himself in the case and bragged so much of his relationship with the Judge then welcomed the defense into his home.

    The defense would have been crazy not to use Knechel to remove Strickand. He begged for it, to insert himself to the detri9ment of Judge Stricklands stellar reputation.

    He soiled & sullied it, but who cares, he’s ‘infamous’ and NO THAT’
    S NOT A GOOD THING.

    But some with nothing else going for them prefer bad attention to none at all.

    Joy Wray & Dave Knechel aren’t BFF’s for nothing.

  210. Laurlee said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    And when Bill says why didn’t the defense do something 6 months ago, well it didn’t take the 1 meeting in the Court Room with JS & MD. It was the boasting, the Ode To Dave Poem, the lies about a ‘ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY’ Lunch with strickland & others, it was lies about a phone call from JS to MD which from MD’s silence now I think never happened.

    It took 6 months cause Dave wouldn’t shut up & put all this stuff on his blog & over hyped that one meeting into this relationship with JS that was in full bloom, very bizarre.

    The result of all his egotistical exagerrations & lies resulted in the last draw MEETING WITH THE DEFENSE. THEY SET HIM UP & USED HIM because it’s what he deserved & invited to happen.

    Sad thing is it hurt Judge Strickland who’s job is his life. MD has no job, jexcept to slander, spread malicious lies about others imo.

  211. C said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    by inserting himself he is not a scapegoat.. he is a media hound. so is she.

  212. Nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    I can’t argue with a cute little baby face, I have no problem arguing with a beast, but I won’t.

    C said – you I like!

  213. mixologist74 said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    I wasn’t here to argue, per se. Just pointing out the obvious lack of respect and good judgement on the part of several commenters on several blogs. :)

  214. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    The horse is still alive and kicking and stomping and spitting. The horse has no sense of shame or even a clue that he could possibly have done anything wrong. His ego just won’t let him see it. And his supporters keep stroking his mane and telling him he didn’t do anything wrong.

    Well, I was nice. I didn’t say horse’s ass.

  215. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    As an afterthought, if people would quit telling him he can do no wrong, HE might settle down and shut up.

  216. 24fortheroad said, on April 22, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    Hey ya’all, did you notice that “chewing gum” in Judge Perry’s court room is a big NO NO. Gota feeling the tide has turned and Twiddle Dum and Twiddle Dee are going to look like schmucks who got their law degree from a gum ball machine.

  217. nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    24 – love it! You know Judge Perry watched the hearings and probably thought the defense side of the room was a dairy farm.

    I am excited about the new judge, we will see a lot of change for the better, I believe. (This does not diminish the fact that I think JS got a raw deal)

  218. 24theroad said, on April 22, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Nom….I agree, Judge Strickland got swiped with bozo brush but I think the defense will be kicking themselves in the butt for a very looooonnnng time. somehow this poor child has got to get some justice.

  219. mymommademedoit said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Marinade Dave // April 22, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Snoopy, Longo called me at 4:34. He had to have gotten the motion from Baez. Only baez and Mason walked into the courthouse and Longo was already there to report the breaking story.

    This is great….. Proof that Baez has personally and directly leaking motions to Channel 13 before filing them with the court.

  220. Snowy said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    SS – I think I might offer a reply over here. Your comments are interesting about all the wrong dates on the motions. Maybe the defense is attempting to trip up the process with a technicality? What happens if a motion is granted (wrong dates and such unnoticed) and then later the defense claims the technicality? Are they pulling a rabbit out of their hats or just shooting themselves in the foot come the appeals process?

  221. sirjef8 said, on April 22, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Nom De Plume – - I just wanted to thank you for your kind comments regarding me – -I am not famous – - but I don’t regret having spoken the truth in my review of the 3/11 hearing – - it brought out the true colors of one who shall remain nameless – -

    You are so right – - I only attend hearings in support of Justice for CAYLEE – - and I always sit on the side of th Prosecution – -dressed in all black – - not for any spotlight nor interviews – - Just to show my support for her Justice!

    BEES – - there is a back exit/entrance to the Orange County Court House – – actually it’s a side exit/entrance on the left hand side of the Court House as you face the CH from Orange Ave. – -between the parking garage and the CH – – but it’s reserved for employees of the court house – Judges – Jurist sequested on a case, etc.

    Yes – there is a big difference in Infamous and Famous – – - – - – I am neither – and choose to stay that way.

  222. judypc said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Bees:
    I understand there will bee about 2000 pages in the dump for tomorrow.

    Wit/statements – evidence logs and other assorted goodies lol.

  223. sirjef8 said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    I failed to say – - that – - although I have a great deal of respect for Judge Strickland – - his courtroom – - is of comedic value – -much like TV court – - I think – Judge Perry will keep the defense and the prosecutors in check – - no more jokes about “hand cream” – - – or otherwise – - – this is serious business – - – not a TV series – - it’s about the murder of a precious child – - – Caylee Marie Anthony – - JMO – - It is a blessing in disguise that Judge Perry took over this case – -regardless of the reason – - and will – sort out – - Justice for Caylee!

  224. judypc said, on April 22, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    sirjef8:

    Well hello there, been a very long time.
    How the heck have you been, good I hope.
    Have to admit I was picking my jaw up off the floor when I heard what had been done to you, that my friend was a low blow in anyones book.

    Glad to see you posting, you take care.

  225. CatCarr said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    Thank you, Mr. Sheaffer. You are one of the few I count on to not back down from speaking the truth. Laymen’s terms are much appreciated by this somewhat educated June Cleaver type!

  226. Doug Wollenburg said, on April 22, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    In Casey’s letters she always comes back to having fun and/or sex…She even talks about how “it’s becoming a rain forest down there”…eewwww…I could understand the forest, but a “rain forest”, where’s all the moisture coming from ? And why ?

    Let’s all hope she gets a bad case of Jungle Rot.

    As for MD…AKA…ykw, stinky…etc…Lets all remember what happens to the people who befriend Casey…His downfall is on it’s way.

  227. Doug Wollenburg said, on April 23, 2010 at 12:04 am

    At the last Hearing when Baez (unprepared as always) had to ask Judge Strickland for some papers, while Baez is at the Bench you can hear Mason in the background say “Thats right, be a good Judge” and then Casey holding back a laugh.

    But then, later on during the Hearing Casey writes on a legal pad with her special pen that Baez always gives her, and she smiling, but Mason justs looks at her like she’s an inbred idiot.

    Again, why is this thing getting all this legal help ? Did she sleep with everyone ? Cause that would explain alot…

  228. Gena said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:53 am

    Doug Wollenburg said, on April 23, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Let’s all hope she gets a bad case of Jungle Rot.

    *******************************************

    By the look of that CRUD on Casey’s infected back, I think she already caught it!

  229. Super Mario Sister said, on April 23, 2010 at 7:00 am

    Is this where old broken records go to die?

    Bee knees,
    Youre being as slimy as the defense. They saw an opportunity to oust the judge cuz they didn’t like him. Now you see an opportunity to oust a blogger you don’t like.

    The irony is rich!

    I don’t like him either, but still.

    You said before when he threatened to post your info that you DIDN’T CARE!

  230. BG said, on April 23, 2010 at 7:14 am

    She’s not the only one SMS.

    The fact that he did it is dispicable, not to mention Sirjef’s situation.

    At least people are now aware of what he does. Don’t you think people should be?

  231. amazed said, on April 23, 2010 at 7:21 am

    @ Sirjeff, I don’t know you, but I want to tell you that I feel what was done to you, by Dave Knechel was horrendous. He not only has no shame, he lacks commonsense, and morality. It amazes that rather than facing punishment of some sort, he revels in the spotlight crying poor me poor me poor me.

    @ Snowy, asking SS for an answer to a legal question is like asking the good houmour man about physics. She can only goolge an answer for you, and take her best shot as can anyone else on this or any other site.

  232. nonameplease said, on April 23, 2010 at 7:31 am

    BG: “At least people are now aware of what he does. Don’t you think people should be?”

    SMS, don’t you think that at the very least people need to know that if they are going to post on that site they need to take care to protect their identity and use a throw away email? Do you think it is ok for a blog host to put a persons name under a picture of a pedophile and post that at his site, all because the person in question had annoyed the blog host in some way????

    People are going to that site because they follow the case for justice for Caylee Marie Anthony. Alot more people are going to that site in the last few days because of the publicity the site received when the judge stepped down. Don’t you think it’s right that people are forewarned to proceed with caution there and keep their identity safe?

  233. RS said, on April 23, 2010 at 7:50 am

    By all means people need to be aware of a blog operator who misuses personal information, and certainly of one who places the name of a blogger under a sex offender image….one who encourages others toward, IMO, CRIMINAL activity, such as harassment..

    Post at one of those at your own risk….your e-mail address and your ISP account number are clearly visible to a blog operator…….

    …….you may think you are only keying in your e-mail address and a nickname you chose to gain access to post, when in fact, all that shows but SO does your ISP account number…

  234. BG said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:27 am

    Not to mention you may be labled a RSO even if you have never posted on his site! Now thats scary.

  235. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:31 am

    See, now here is one of the problems of offering support to someone whose character you might not be fully apprised of. Marinade, in his desire to ‘get even’, has now potentially set himself up for a defamation lawsuit by making the blanket statement, “the fact is, no one trusts him” (Mason).

    The fact, actually, is that Cheney Mason (who could sue someone at will without investing too much of his own time or effort, should he be inclined) is a prominent local Orlando attorney, same as Mr. Bill Sheaffer. I would imagine it could be a bit uncomfortable to read that a blogger who was supported by his wife is now besmirching a colleague in such a way. Good grief!!

  236. Along for the Ride said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:39 am

    Super Mario Sister said, on April 23, 2010 at 7:00 am
    Is this where old broken records go to die?
    Bee knees,
    Youre being as slimy as the defense.
    ……
    I don’t know Bees, but as an outside observer watching this unfold, its clear she/he has shown only true class and composure.
    I would have not only been livid were I being maliciously targeted by a madman with a keyboard; I would have contacted Law Enforcement and my attorney.
    Bees has been a real sport thus far.

  237. amazed said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Know who…… Is Cheney Masons wifes name Carol??? What a hoot that would be!!!

  238. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Well, you can see at a glance the supporters who have been brainwashed from another site and are making a feeble attempt to defend the actions of their cult leader. They will learn. As BG pointed out, you don’t even need to post on that site to become a target of his anger.

    Doug – thanks for the “rain forest”. That is one that I had missed (I really didn’t read the letters). Sure wish I had read it after breakfast, but couldn’t wait to get here)

    SMS – if you pick on Bees, you pick on all of us! We feel exactly the same way she does. We kinda feel that people who keep parroting what a blameless saint he is sound like a broken record.

    Document day!

  239. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:03 am

    One more thing – we have PROOF of DK’s illegal and immoral actions. Do you have proof that he is an innocent blamess soul? I would guess not.

  240. BEES KNEES said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:07 am

    sterling1462 said, on April 22, 2010 at 5:11 pm Bees….
    Have you ever taken Casey’s jailhouse letters and counted how many times she says “I”
    compared to how many times she mentioned her daughter.

    ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~

    I haven’t, Sterling. Have you? My guess would be Casey = 500 and Caylee 5? Is that close?

  241. BEES KNEES said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Nom, that’s cool (to go to court) and also very decent of the famous Sirjef to represent us all on Caylee’s side. Isn’t that really something that total strangers are looking out for her???

  242. BEES KNEES said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:11 am

    nom de plume said, on April 22, 2010 at 5:47 pm I should point out that Sirjef has never posted at MDs blog. That comment was made in another blog, Dave eavesdropped and heard something bad about his bad self!

    ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ .

    You have GOT to be kidding me???

  243. BEES KNEES said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Hopefully sir has some legal recourse.

    Hey! I think the new discovery has been released! BBIAB!

  244. muesli said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Does anyone know when the next NE comes out? Any bets who we might find there? I hear they pay good money. Just asking.

  245. BEES KNEES said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Thank you, along. That was very, very nice of you to say. I can honestly say that I always consider where it came from before I decide how to take it and a remark like that has only one place to go and I refuse to waste any amount of time considering it. I’m trying to finish reading all the comments here before I start in on the disclosure and I’m actually squirming (just a little) to get to it. Judy said, “2000 pages!!!” Oh la! I made it! See ya later!

  246. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:33 am

    So this hairsplitting ; I can’t make up what it means exactly. Could anyone tell me?

  247. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:34 am

    I meantg the evidence released today.

  248. Nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Muesli – I truly, truly have no clue who you are hinting at (NE), but would really like to know!

    This is a short reply to Newpuppy from the 4/22 lengthy posts on the previous thread:

    Sirjef posted his own personal opinion (to which he is entitled) on his home blog, and until yesterday that was the only blog he posted on.

    If your hero had made a similar comment about SirJef (or anyone, and believe me he has made some doozies about many, many people), and that person retaliated by posting a picture of a registered sex offender with DAVE KNECHEL AKA MARINADE DAVE under the photo, for all the Internet to see, you would think that was pretty terrible, wouldn’t you? If you would not, I would be interested in knowing why. I would imagine that Sirjef mentioned his daughter being an anchor is because she has the same last name as he does, and she is going to be embarassed by what Dave did as well as anyone else in his family with that name, and DON’T say he deserved it. The punishment does not fit the crime.

    We now have a new blog police tellling us what is appropriate to post and not to post. If someone did to me what Dave did, I would be asking for any and all the help I could get from anyone who would listen.

  249. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Sirjef can file a complaint at the police I suppose? If it is a fellony. (” I’ll sue you! “) And if he doesn’t want to – soit. Or: let it be. He doesn’t want to be in the news.

    Now what is with the hair! It is about FBI tests, but what does it mean? Who are the people whose hairs were found in the vaccuum cleaner? (I really don’t understand a bit of this new release. )

  250. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Why doesn’t EVERYONE just drop the subject? You all are acting like 2-year-olds throwing a tantrum.

  251. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    BTW, I’m not the blog police.

  252. I Say said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Ina,

    Splitting hairs is putting too much importance on unimportant details.

  253. c said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    MoCutie, why worry?

  254. I Say said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Why doesn’t EVERYONE just drop the subject? You all are acting like 2-year-olds throwing a tantrum.
    ———————–

    You are not the injured party here. Do you condone what MD did to sirjeff8? Many here have been maligned by MD unmercifully. Do you condone that also? Unless your name is Craig Mazer or Bill Sheaffer, leave the moderating to them.

  255. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Okay, I try again. I put a link to evidence that was released today but I don’t understand what it is about, why it is evidence and I wonder if someone could explain?

  256. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    (I can’t imagine YKW wil have insight info on this new evidence somehow. Just a joke.)

  257. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    I now see the text that goes with the document lol. How could I miss that? Forget the above :) It is about hairs on the ductape. It says the hairs are all accounted for? No strangers hair was there. I think. But what does it mean? Celia’s story, it interesting as well, but how important is it?

  258. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    I give up lol, I can’t spell the name even, and the discussion is about something else. :)

  259. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Never said I condoned it. I notice he’s attacked several different people in the past few months. This seems so 3rd grade to sit there and call names, and I’m not just talking just about the people on this blog, I mean MD as well. A few of his regular posters have even told him to back up, stop the name-calling, etc. It’s childish on everyone’s part who participates. I thought we are all adults here, but maybe I was mistaken.

  260. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Ina – I was going to answer you in my limited capacity, but see you figured it out. I have been busy reading, so just now saw your post.

    Yes, it is interesting that someone whose name I have never seen before just happens to pop in and give their opinion. Not too suspicious. MoCutie, go tell your cult leader to offer a formal, NICE apology and retraction, then maybe we will drop it.

  261. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Nom, I’m not one of MD’s sheeple, I promise. It needs to stop being provoked by both sides involved.

  262. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    INA: I have not read the docs but I have listened to the noon news. WFTV reported that there was one hair unaccounted for, but that it is believed to be transfer. No doubt the defense will try to show the evidence was mishandled. IMO it could be anyones hair. No telling who casey was scromping in the trunk! LOL She did about everyone in Orlando it seems.

  263. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Isn’t BAB’s blog there for the specific purpose of airing one’s grievances about MD?

  264. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Ina, to add to frankie’s comment, the hairs submitted were from the officers gathering evidence from the crime scene – they were submitted for control. Yes, you do need a comb to read the report! LOL

  265. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Gena=poster we all know, hiding under another name. LOL

  266. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    I have to agree with Gena. MD inserted himself and is fair game. I, however, am moving past that blithering idiot. I don’t post there, I don’t read his blog and I don’t give a tinkers dam what happens to him….I hope Sir sues him for that stupidity. I don’t think he brings anything to this subject except an opinion, just like everyone else has, and not a very intelligent one at that. He played devils advocate and defended the family simply because his is the only blog that does so. He did it for the attention and still does. When he got played by the defense, he turned tail in a heartbeat….yeah, impressive snake isn’t he?

    As much as I like the affable Judge Strickland, I think this case NEEDS a tough, no nonsense judge. I hope Judge Perry is that judge. In the end, I want Caylee’s murderess tried fairly, convicted beyond reasonable doubt and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

    I also think mason’s good old boy ploy will bite him in the proverbial behind! That attitude may have carried him this far in his career, but this is a different world than the one that old man practiced in. I think the jury will not only view his as an idiot, but an offensive idiot at that. That is how it should be. This is no game. Mr. Sheaffer said it best…..a tiny child is dead and a citizen is on trial for her life. No place for joking and a circus….let American Justice prevail…..In Jesus’ name, I pray.

  267. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Thanks frankie, I sure don’t read well :( So this one unaccounted hair, it could have been anyones? Did they check Tony? I didn’t see his name I think?

  268. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Ina: According to the reports, it was never identified. I personally don’t think this is a big problem for the State. The hair could have come from anywhere. It could have been in the anthony garage, in the trunk or blown onto the tape when it was in the dump site or during the gathering of evidence. Now if it were found on Caylee’s skin, under the tape, it MIGHT create some doubt….however, it still would not, in my mind, indicate that casey did not murder Caylee….IMO, not enough to create REASONABLE doubt. But that is just me.

  269. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    From WFTV report:

    But WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said that hair could have come from an investigator, from someone who transferred it to an investigator, or any number of other ways that have nothing to do with identifying Caylee’s killer.

  270. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    MoCutie said: “Why doesn’t EVERYONE just drop the subject? You all are acting like 2-year-olds throwing a tantrum.”

    Really, you think so? Myself, I don’t see it that way at all. Actually, I think it is quite impressive how posters have been making their thoughts known on this in a matter of fact, straightforward kind of way. No drama, no name calling, that is, until you and Gena took up with what seems a personal problem.

    I have visited that web site, Bald ain’t beautiful, and it hardly seems structured to “air grievances.” By its nature, wouldn’t that process include input by Marinade?

    In any case, my intent in originally posting was not for the purpose of ‘airing a grivance’, instead, I was and still am, genuinely concerned that the wife of a prominent attorney and decent man such as Bill Sheaffer seems to be, appeared to be supporting a blogger, who recently took center stage in this case with the former judge, without full knowledge of his true character. As it is, less than 24 hours later, Marinade was making potentially libelous statements about another Orlando attorney, Cheney Mason.

    I would think that might have the potential to be embarrassing for the Sheaffer’s.

    Who knows what might be different today if this topic had previously been allowed to be discussed rationally and in a ‘grown up manner’ in a main stream, open forum.

  271. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Thanks frankie, I should have read all I suppose. I just surf a bit, not much time.

    One hair, now if the defense wants to make a point of it, and claims it could be from the murderer, then Casey’s life might depend on one hair? But also the prosecution will want to find out whose it is. Everyone who ever was near that ductape must have been checked, now one can’t be found. To find this one person, that may take a while. So have the given up looking for the person who lost the hair?

  272. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    How could the presence of one hair indicate casey did not murder Caylee? The hair could have been in the trunk where Caylee laid for several days. Doubt must be REASONABLE. IMO one unidentified hair does not create any doubt given the only information we now have available. Again, the hair could have merely blown into the crime scene….does not mean it had anything at all to do with the murder.

  273. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Which statement about Mason was made that could be considered libelous?

  274. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    The reports state it was a caucasian hair not a Mexican-Black person as casey described. WFTV is now reporting that the unidentified hair wasn’t even on the tape:

    “documents released Friday (read them) show that the unidentified hair came from piece of plastic that a medical examiner’s office investigator collected from evidence found in the wooded area near Suburban Drive.”

    I say it is a non-issue, just an a piece of driftwood in the tempest of the sea the defense is drowning in.

  275. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Oh that explains it…..conman, the anthony attorney, was the one that said it was on the tape….just another anthony lie.

  276. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Why does everyone seem to forget REASONABLE doubt? TaTa for now…gotta run!

  277. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    OK, no one leaves the room until we find out who that pesky hair belongs to. In fact, no one leave the State until we get to the bottom of this.

    Frankie, I believe you are right:

    I say it is a non-issue, just an a piece of driftwood in the tempest of the sea the defense is drowning in.

  278. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    It wouldn’t be Kronks. I don’t think it is a non issue. Was it male or female?

  279. amazed said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    The defense is desperate for anything to hang their hats on to create reasonable doubt. They know that no reasonable person is going to have any doubts as to what happened. We won’t know HOW or even fully understand WHY, but will definetly know WHO. One stray hair, good golly, I could be a DNA science project just combing my hair. We all lose at least 150 -200 hairs a day, that place was a hang out for years, so it would be hard for a sensible, reasonable person to think that the only hair there would be Casey or Caylees.

  280. craigatwftv said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Ok, some people have decided to appoint themselves MODERATOR. You know who you are. You are not moderator. This blog is not to debate if someone is someone else — I really don’t care WHO you are if your posts are appropriate and stay within the context of the blog. Personal attacks, repetitive posts and off-subject discussions are not tolerated. Please get back on track…

  281. Gena said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Is there anything in the doc dump damaging to the defense?

    On HLN they started to speak about the brand new ‘damaging evidence’ to the defense then my satellite went out due to bad weather–lol.

    In a nutshell, is it the hair? Wouldn’t that help the defense?

  282. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Some unidentified DNA was found. That is important for the defense. I don’t think they will let it pass. Got to go celebrate something, but I do hope someone comes up with an explanation why that hair was there. Bye!

  283. MoCutie said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Thank you, Craig. :)

  284. Gena said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    I’m still waiting for latent fingerprints–but won’t hold my breath anymore. So far no latents included in any of the doc dumps–including this one I assume.

    I guess I’ll go read the ‘new evidence’ ~sigh~ well at least we can say LE & SAO are super thorough, no stones unturned.

    The hair is what it is, Casey is guilty & I don’t think a stand of hair will change the mountain of evidence against her.

  285. Ina said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    I meant, more explanations, apart from the hair being ofany of the investigators, as they could all be checked.

  286. Gena said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Cool Craig, just checking to see if you’re alive.

  287. Along for the Ride said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    muesli said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:17 am
    Does anyone know when the next NE comes out? Any bets who we might find there? I hear they pay good money. Just asking.
    ……..
    Nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 11:43 am
    Muesli – I truly, truly have no clue who you are hinting at (NE), but would really like to know!
    ……..
    NE= National Enquirer Nom. :)

  288. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Hi Muesli – thanks for responding. I know you meant national enquirer, guess my post was confusing. I meant, who do you think will be in the NE?

  289. Me said, on April 23, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    hey check out this blog http://www.thenewdaymare.blogspot.com interesting lol

  290. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 23, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    The hair was NOT found on a piece of duct-tape.

    “When Caylee’s remains were discovered, detectives found a World of Disney bag nearby. Inside the bag was a Gatorade bottle, which contained a syringe and a brown liquid that contained extremely small amounts of the chemical chloroform.”

    ………..”Crime scene investigators placed the items from the bag on a piece of brown paper to take a photo, and the 5-inch-long strand of human hair was later discovered on the paper, the documents show. The hair does not belong to Casey or Caylee Anthony, and the documents released on Friday show that it also does not belong to any of the crime scene investigators who handled the evidence.”

  291. c said, on April 23, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    might it belong to YKW?

  292. RS said, on April 23, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    That bag and the hair likely have nothing at all to do with Caylee….

    …….it says found nearby….

    That description in no way pertains to other items described as found WITH the remains….

  293. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    c said, on April 23, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    might it belong to YKW?

    ***

    Yes! He admits he was poking around and filming in that area. The plot thickens.

  294. Stacy said, on April 23, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    YNW next one to frame, he’s making it too easy for the defense. Here comes the bus.

  295. non de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Oh my. I just remembered he doesn’t have any hair. Back to the drawing board.

  296. c said, on April 23, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    he had 1 or 2 at the time. lol

  297. I Say said, on April 23, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    ahem!!, nom, you spelled your name wrong at 5:25 PM.

  298. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Darn! that was my fake name, and you caught me! Guess I better get a better disguise. I wonder why I have to type it in every time?

  299. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 23, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    depending on your settings, your might find that you can double click in the name box and see it stored there – if so, just select it.

  300. Beast said, on April 23, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Just a thought.

    Judge Perry=Justice for Caylee

    I hope.

  301. I Say said, on April 23, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    nom, once you type it in, it should stay there unless you clear your cookies/cache. I am not logged into WordPress and I don’t have to re-type mine each time. If you have cookies disabled, that will cause the problem as well or you may have refused to allow the WordPress cookie and you will have to release it.

  302. judypc said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    5” long dark brown Caucasian hair strand, where could it have come from?
    And where was it in reality found?

    While some reports from the media state the hair was found on the tape that was attached to Caylees skull, if we look at the evidence released we are left to ponder, are there in reality 2 hairs, or was the hair in question found on evidence item Q91?

    If in fact it is from Q91 if you look at evidence photos you see that belongs to the Gatoraide bottle and bag evidence.

    IMO the hair is of little or no concern, no matter where it was found.

    Now, where could the hair have come from?
    Just off the cuff I can give an array of scenarios that could explain this mystery hair and its possible origins.

    Let’s begin our timeframe with the placement of said tape and work our way backward shall we?

    In our daily walk about we come in contact with others, a stray hair can be transferred from one person to another with very little effort, lets take a simple look at the ways this hair could in fact have come from Casey, without belonging to Casey.
    Without breaking a sweat here are some thoughts that really take the mystery out of this hair.
    A friendly hug.
    Use of another’s hair brush.
    Setting in car seat, or chair and picking it up on clothes.
    Brushing up against someone.
    A new garment of clothes that someone else may have looked at or tried on.
    And as simply as it could have just been floating around in the air and landed.
    It could have drifted into the area in the water.

    Now lets look at after the discovery of the body and how this hair could have surfaced.

    If we review tapes of that area and the sheer number of people it took to remove every stick and turn every stone to locate every tiny bone we see countless possibilities.

    Again, body to body transfer heads the list.

    The State should address this hair first on the list and quickly get it out of the way, give the jury the very simple explanations’ , and simply say they do not believe it is of any importance to the case, and offers no value.
    Then, when defense try’s to later make it into the bushy haired killer stranger, the State can say look we have already explained the hair, and the defense is grasping at straws.
    If the State fails to address this hair, or evade it, then they look like they are hiding something and then they will have a problem.

    To me the hair does not hold mystery, or cause me concern, in many ways the fact that it can not be linked to lab personal is a plus, defense can not use sloppy lab work in an effort to taint the total forensic package brought to trial.

  303. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Hello I say (sounds British – pip pip) I tried the double click and it is not stored. My antivirus program automatically clears cookies, so I guess that is the problem. Thanks for your help.

  304. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Judy PC that was brilliant writing! I hope the prosecution uses that. It is so true. Hairs travel like germs, only more rapidly (both airborne and contact)

  305. sirjef8 said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    JUDYPC – - good to see you again as well – - long time – - WFTV ole’ blog – where we first started – - how true your post about the “unknown hair” – - email me if you still have my email address – - would love to speak with you in private – -

    NOM DE PLUME – - I would also like to speak with you in private – via Email – - I don’t know if you ever go to RS Blog – Justice for CAYLEE – - but – - if you ask her – I’m sure she’ll provide my email address to you.

  306. I Say said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Then Belich asked: ”Could that mystery hair do for Casey what the bloody glove did for O.J. Simpson?”

    WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer supplied an answer.

    “If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit — this evidence does not rise to that level,” Sheaffer said. “There is so much other circumstantial evidence indicating that Casey Anthony killed her child. In the O.J. Simpson case, there was not that quality or quantity of circumstantial evidence.”

    Earlier, Belich had reported that the mystery hair was on the duct tape found with the toddler’s remains. WESH-Channel 2 also reported that the strand was “on the duct tape across Caylee’s skull.”

    But the documents released today say nothing about a mystery hair on duct tape. And Belich updated her initial report by later saying: ”A 5-inch-long, fine, dark brown strand of hair from a Caucasian was found with a piece of plastic from the scene where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found.”

    WKMG-Channel 6’s Mike DeForest noted the mysterious hair was found in the woods near the toddler’s remains.

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/04/casey-anthony-is-mystery-hair-found-with-caylee-as-crucial-as-bloody-glove-in-o-j-simpson-case.html#comments

  307. sirjef8 said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    I’d provide my email address here but I’m already “floating around the internet” entirely too much – - to my chagrin – - and certainly not by choice.

  308. sirjef8 said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Craig – - you are authorized by me to release my Email address to JUDYPC and NOM DE PLUME – should they ask you for it.

  309. I Say said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    nom,

    YW, I am knackered so it is bedfordshire for me. TTFN

  310. sirjef8 said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    I SAY – - good post – - clarification of the “unknown strand of hair” – - – and IMO – Mr. Sheaffer – is the best legal analyist in the Orlando area – - if not the country – - he does his research – - speaks truth from the hip – with no prejudice – - and – - lets the chips fall where they may – - he is a definite asset to the legal community and especially to WFTV!

  311. nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    I say, you have just befuddled the heck out of me! YW? TTFN? I think I understood the 2 and 3 letter words.

  312. Nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Sirjef – you’ve got mail.

  313. judypc said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Nom:

    It has been my opinion from the start that the State should not allow themselves to get into a forensic pissing contest with the defense.

    Keep it clean, keep it simple, keep it quick.
    Do not go on and on with charts and symbols, use language everyday people will understand, if something does not match, just say there is no match.

    Let defense put the jury to sleep with endless dribble.

    The state should address any mistakes, any unknowns, and offer clear concise answers for those, not excuses.
    And “THEY” should address them, not allow the defense to drag them out onto the table and make them look glaring.
    That takes away any defense bombs from the start, people understand that mistakes sometimes happen, they understand sometimes a bug fly’s into your soup.
    Just face it head on.

    Defense will try to make things like this hair into a huge thing, but the state can chop its legs off from the start and be done with it.
    Just do not allow something of no issue to become a monster to start with, do not hide, do not run, stand and deliver the jury will follow them all the way to a conviction.

    Sir:
    I do not know if I still have it or not.
    but if you want have Frankie post it over on my private site if that works for you.

  314. I Say said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    YW= Your Welcome, TTFN= Ta Ta For Now. British blog speak. :wink:

  315. frankie said, on April 23, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    There are those who will jump on the hair simply because their agenda dictates that casey be freed at all costs. The cost of casey’s freedom may very well be Justice for Caylee. The hair is a non issue. Caylee’s remains lay in those woods for MONTHS…through wind, floods and garbage dumpage (LOL new word I just made up!). If the hair is to be proof of casey’s innocence, we will never again be able to prove anyone guilty of anything. There are many miscellaneous items lying about a crime scene. To think that each particle of dust in the vicinity of a crime must be traced back to a specific individual is ludicrous at best. non issue! Just a piece of floating flotsam for the quickly sinking defense.

  316. Nom de plume said, on April 23, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Frankie – it is a nonissue to us, the State will make it an issue – you know their penchant for straining at a gnat, yet they want us to swallow a camel with their BS. Judy’s take on it is brilliant, to just get it over with before the defense can start.

    Well, I Say, I am now educated in British Blog speak. Are you in Britain, or here from Britain?

  317. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Common sense says if they take all the trouble to determine whose hairs were there, it was an issue to know, and as now there appears to be a hair that can’t be accounted for, the defense will use that as evidence that some one else might be involved. That is on their agenda for sure, would it not be strange if they would think of it as a non issue?

    And they may even have a point there?

    If one hair could do something to make it look like Casey killed Caylee, would the prosecution say that the hair is a non issue? They would use that offcourse.

  318. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:33 am

    “IMO the hair is of little or no concern, no matter where it was found.” This is getting more absurd every day. Of course it is important and if it was anywhere near the spot Caylee was found, it might be a clue to whomever took her there to rot. It is very easy only to use evidence that is convenient to the prosecution and leave out the rest, but it doesn’t serve the truth about Caylees death to ignore them. JMO.

  319. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:47 am

    Keep it clean and quick and only use whatever you can to make it look like the mother did it; the truth is not important at all?? Is that Justice, well I don’t think so.

  320. CatCarr said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:47 am

    I read Bill’s “Let It Be” days ago and just now, the comments. Was hoping for the best. Does anyone know of a blog concerning Caylee Anthony where commentators are NOT trashing one another?

  321. CatCarr said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Wow…. I gotta tell ya, I’m in shock.

  322. The JBmission said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:15 am

    sirjef8,
    I want to apologize to you personally. I did comment on the pedophile article not knowing what or why he posted it. I was a total “newbie” on the site and didn’t see the meaning until I started reading what other blogs were posting. I was horrified by the audacity of MD.
    He did the same to me by commenting under my post from Nov 30, 2009. I went to this articlce because it was the topic I wanted to comment on.
    I now think he singled out me because I was new and he was trying to impress me. Is that possible? I half way believed him because I saw all of the Judge Strickland rhetoric on his site. His arrogance seemed the same as usual. Now it’s a joke but it was never revealed to me. I didn’t think that was cool either but no one else saw it as improper. Oh well..I guess I was duped.
    In any case, I don’t know you and so far I think you’re an upright person. All I know is every dog has their day. It’s coming…wink.

  323. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:37 am

    I hope upright doesn’t mean it is ok to say that people smell etc. (sarcasm). :)

    Yes who is SS? (more sarcasm)

    The FBI destroyed evidence by usiung chemicals. Now I want to think the FBI is a prof. organization, that won’t do any stupid things. What is the meaning oif the FBI if they can goof like that, what more happens that we don’t know of?

    We want it quick and easy. There is no reliable evidence Ms Casey Anthony did this murder of Caylee. No witnesess no confession, nothing but a lot of theories and they are proven to be based on ‘evidence’ that is ruined or multiple interpretable. I think there really is NO CASE!

  324. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:38 am

    using not usiung

  325. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:48 am

    Which doesn’t mean I think Casey didn’t do it, that is horribly irrelavant if it can’t be proven. Or is it not?

  326. The JBmission said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:52 am

    Ina,
    you make some valid points. I can hardly wait to hear the tangible facts, like dna, fingerprints, hair strands. You know, like in normal trials.
    No confession too? good point.

  327. The JBmission said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:59 am

    KC did something. Kill? How, when and where? Oh and Why?
    In the doc dump today, did anyone figure out where this unknown hair was found. I have to think it’s not consistent with the victim or the accused because if it was, there would be no need to test 7 or 8 female crime scene investigators.
    As for Mallory’s statement, that’s not new. Are the SAO’s going to line everyone up on the stand and ask them what they think? Not likely.
    I need to get back to bed. gnite.

  328. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 7:22 am

    Following is snipped from one of the reports in the doc dump yesterday:

    “When Caylee’s remains were discovered, detectives found a World of Disney bag nearby. Inside the bag was a Gatorade bottle, which contained a syringe and a brown liquid that contained extremely small amounts of the chemical chloroform.”

    ………..”Crime scene investigators placed the items from the bag on a piece of brown paper to take a photo, and the 5-inch-long strand of human hair was later discovered on the paper, the documents show. The hair does not belong to Casey or Caylee Anthony, and the documents released on Friday show that it also does not belong to any of the crime scene investigators who handled the evidence.”

  329. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 7:36 am

    “Q107 – collection paper crime scene – hair found, dissimilar to Caylee or KC “

  330. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 7:42 am

    personally, I think this hair is the furthest thing away from a smoking gun – if that’s what the defense intends it to be. If it were found adhered to the duct tape…maybe, but it wasn’t.

  331. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 7:57 am

    CatCarr said:

    “I read Bill’s “Let It Be” days ago and just now, the comments. Was hoping for the best. Does anyone know of a blog concerning Caylee Anthony where commentators are NOT trashing one another?”

    I have read every comment posted on this blog and other than for two people who came on yesterday and started sniping at each other (comments were promptly deleted by the moderator here) I’ve not seen any trashing at all, which leads me to think you must be referring to comments made in discussion about Marinade. If so, I question your definition of what it means to “trash” a thing or person.

    What I read, and posted myself as well, would better be described as statements of verifiable fact and opinions based on facts that are easily substantiated. Don’t see the trash there at all.

  332. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Ina said: “The FBI destroyed evidence by usiung chemicals. Now I want to think the FBI is a prof. organization, that won’t do any stupid things. What is the meaning oif the FBI if they can goof like that, what more happens that we don’t know of?”

    To err is human, FBI analysts are human. I think that is a concept a jury can easily understand and accept.

    Are you referring to the sticker residue? If so, I think the path it took through evidence examination was, in hindsight, a mistake, and that there was never a photograph taken..I’m sure “someone” kicked them-self for that but again, hindsight is 20/20 vision. Stuff happens….better that it was all done perfectly…but that just isn’t realistic.

    I don’t think the absence of the residue, if it did exist, will matter much in the grand scheme of things.

  333. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 8:24 am

    Beast, hmmmm, I see post after post discussing the case here today. Maybe you need to refresh your browser?

  334. nom de plume said, on April 24, 2010 at 9:13 am

    I would like to make a correction in my post of last night at 10:19. No one stomped me, so maybe it was not noticed, but I DID NOT mean the State strains at gnats. I obviously meant the defense! Please excuse me.

    KWYS – I don’t see any recent comment by Beast – maybe it was deleted? He and CatCarr are posters at MDs, they only come here to needle the commenters who are against MD. Notice CatCarr didn’t have anything to say except to try to moderate the board and stop us from talking about MD. It seems that the topic changes, then they pop in and start it up again. Go figure.

  335. RS said, on April 24, 2010 at 9:32 am

    The defense is not going to gain anything trumping up a hair found among discarded debris and not on the remains, as it is an area where people dump stuff…

    Very damaging to the defense is the body dump site is on record of being a hangout, including one very familiar to Casey….

    …..looked at another way, the criminal chose to dump the body in an area she was very familiar with, that she knew was heavily wooded and not well traveled….within a mile or less of her own home.

    whoever’s hair that is was not the one who failed to dial 911 EVER, was not the one who lied consistently to law enforcement….

    and even more damaging to the defense is not the one who purposely took other people’s garbage and placed it in their decomp ridden trunk…imagine that, taking someone else’s garbage and placing it among your items in a decompmobile trunk……

    Considering anthony deliberately took the garbage of other people and mingled it with her own items, it is a wonder there are not even more stray hairs or other items classified as stray found…

  336. BEES KNEES said, on April 24, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Judy, I love the no-nonsense way you dealt with the hair and I agree with you. I’ll bet the State deals with it just like that. Clean, simple & quick. I do not for a second think you’re describing how the entire case should be handled. Of course they will spend much more time with some evidence but when it doesn’t have anything to do with the case, like this hair, there’s just nothing there to consider.

  337. BEES KNEES said, on April 24, 2010 at 9:42 am

    The Hinky Meter has a fresh post, “The Gatorade bottle and a Syringe – Chemical Analysis – Updated”

    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/04/24/the-gatorade-bottle-and-a-syringe-chemical-analysis/

  338. FRG said, on April 24, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Attorney on Caylee Case Suspect
    November 20, 2009 4:55 AM

    Attorney Linda Kenny Baden spoke to Maggie Rodriguez about the defense in the case against Casey Anthony for the murder of her daughter Caylee, suggesting a possible new suspect.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5721191n&tag=mncol;lst;4
    *****************************
    How come LKB talk about RK like that and she has no proof? How do these people sleep at night?

  339. judypc said, on April 24, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Bees:

    Do you know if Vall ever considered the chance these compounds were a result of fermentation?

    I would be interested to see if this idea has ever been tossed about.

    These compounds are a natural conversion process of degrading microorganisms found under fermentation conditions.

    chloroform, carbon tetrachloride, ethylene chloride, trichloroethylene, acetate, benzene and the like have been recovered from the fermentation beer for instance.

    Depending on what liquid or substance was originally in the bottle when it was tossed, the natural break down could account for the compounds found, I would like to see what their thoughts are on this, as I can not find a way to connect the test results to the murder, “unless” they can connect the same compounds to the car again I see much ado about nothing.

  340. BEES KNEES said, on April 24, 2010 at 10:44 am

    Judy, I only started reading the Hinky Meter in the last 2 – 3 months. Every once in awhile I try to get caught up and read her archival posts but I am woefully behind in that regard. I would love to say I’ve read them all but that day may never come. Anyway, all that is to say is that I have never read her opinion of those compounds being a result of fermentation. Maybe she does in today’s thread, which I’m off to read now.

  341. I Say said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:01 am

    FRG, not only is the woman repulsive, her assertion that Roy Kronk should have been investigated is equally repulsive. It would appear that team Baez is sticking with the SODDI defense to cast reasonable doubt. One would think that LE has thoroughly checked out RK and has cleared him or he would be in a dorm at the Orange County Detention Center. Is Baez so embarrassed that he didn’t do this interview or is LKB feeling left out since we haven’t heard much from that condescending windbag lately. I can’t wait till Friday to see how Judge Perry is going to handle all this. Gag Order anybody, or is it too late for that?

  342. Beast said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:03 am

    There does not need to be an order. After seeing that interview I was ready to gag.

  343. Doug Wollenburg said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:03 am

    What does the Defense have to gain ?

    They get to drain the taxpayers. And in the future they will take on other cases to get the DP off the table, that is all this case is about. Drop the DP and Casey would find herself with just Baez.

    Baez and the Duh Team want to know how much they can spend per month…That is the clue to what they are after…Future funds…Think of all the DP cases in Florida just waiting for the Duh Team to swoop in and befuddle the facts so they can collect taxpayer funds or to divert funds from the Public Defenders Office for the same reason.

    It’s about a personal agenda not Justice.

  344. I Say said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:12 am

    Beast, your eye looks a bit bloodshot today. Was it too much of the nectar of the grape last night or did you tear your sclera looking at Linda K Baden?

  345. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:26 am

    “To err is human, FBI analysts are human. “Okay so let’s apply that thought on bloggers also. YKW for instance, he bragged and lied, and now has his name in the gutter, someof us who were hurt by what he did,fought back. Judge Strickland was most effected and says nothing, I think we should do as he does. Let’s stop kicking this ppor almostdead horse. He has to go on with his life as well. I bet he is sorry for the things he did wrong. And if not… Let it be.

    ABout Roy Kronk, what if the bag he saw had nothing to do with Caylee, but was another bag?Then the search teams couldn’t possibly have found it as it was not there yet and Casey couldn’t have placed Caylee there as she was in jail . So then there is another murderer. Again another theory. Sorry if I err, or if this has been said before (it must have been said before) I am also only human :)

  346. Ina said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Wow, I broke my typo record!

  347. LMAO said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Sure Ina, whatever you say!!!!!!

  348. judypc said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Bees:
    Some steroids are the bi-product of the mutation process from the fermentation in beer.

    When I saw the compounds in the reports, only a couple of things came to mind, the steroid compound has been used in pain management, and then this idea of the break down of the substance in the bottle could produce these components naturally, just like when you use make your own yeast for instance.

  349. RS said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:59 am

    The search teams did NOT, repeat did NOT search the THE area where Caylee’s remains were found by Kronk, first noticed by him as something suspicious.

  350. Susan said, on April 24, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    I have a question for Mr. Sheaffer.

    I am worried that the blogger who caused so much trouble with his lies is still at it. I guess it is his huge ego that tells him his behaviour is acceptable. But in fact it is not. It is not acceptable to print lies about a real judge involved in a real case. Will the blogger be allowed back in the courtroom? Will he be allowed to interview witnesses in this case? How many more times and in how many different ways can this person shape the outcome of this case? What would happen if, say two dozen of us decided to do the same thing? Would we all be allowed to insert ourselves into the case and start taking videos, interviewing witnesses, lying about Judge Perry? Making up stories about the Judges and lawyers and then printing them as if they were true. Can you imagine the chaos if we did?

    I want to know who we can alert to our very real worries. Who do we address? Does anyone know? I’m going to start with asking the media (wftv) for some help with this. I think anyone who, like me, is worried about this blogger making a mess out of this already messy case, should let their voices be heard. We can’t be quiet about it because the guy is still at it. He hasn’t learned a darned thing.

    And now he can boast that “some lawyer’s wife has condoned his behaviour and absolved his guilt.” She might as well have tried to put out a grease fire with water. Cause that’s just what she did. Wait and see what he pulls the next time.

  351. judypc said, on April 24, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    RS:
    It seems no matter what the reports say, some people want to twist the facts and make them into something more than it is.

    99.9 percent of us know that area was never searched, those of us that happen to live here also know that a couple of feet off could make all the difference in the world, and we know the searchers were by far more than a few feet off.

    Just like those that want to pin some importance on every bit of refuse gathered in that lot, if it does not connect it simply can not be made to fit into the puzzle for or against Casey.

    Sometimes a stray hair is just that a stray hair, it could have come from a thousand different places, wonder what the defense would say if the hair somehow turned out to be from oh lets see… P.I. Casey, or their bombshell witness or some other hired hand of the defense.

    “Would they then be ready to say “oh there’s the murderer?”

  352. Nom de plume said, on April 24, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Susan – I share your concern. Mr. Shaeffer has a “Submit Questions” thread, and if you copy and paste your comment there, he might be more likely to see it and answer it.

  353. Susan said, on April 24, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    I recently came across a blogger that said for months she read that other blog and for the life of her couldn’t see anything offensive in it. But then she started reading it more regularly and sometimes read the Off Topic page. She said within a week she saw what everyone else saw. She was shocked at the infantile and horribly sexist behaviour and saw the names he called women (pigs, whores, sluts, dogs, farts). She finally realized that no matter how crude and offensive he got, somehow those remarks were most often deleted within 24 hours. In this manner he was able to keep up a false front for a long time.

  354. Susan said, on April 24, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Thanks nom de plume. I moved my question over to that thread. I really am concerned that he will screw things up again because he has been patted on the head and told he did nothing wrong. The last thing you should do with someone like that is tell him he did nothing wrong. I am so curious as to who this woman is that would have said such a thing. Do you have any idea? Do you think it may not even be true? It is hard to believe that there is anyone left who hasn’t caught on to him. Unless it is somebody who never reads his blog?

  355. tulpjes said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Susan, great post!
    I totally 100% agree with you.
    MD has written some horrible things about me.
    He wrote that he was looking for the sister of the child molester and found me!
    I have saved all his horrible remarks and nasty names he has called me, well most of them, I’m sure I missed some, because there were so many.

    Let’s also not forget that he posted personal information, name, address + phone number of the PI of the defense on his blog.
    He actually asked posters to harass Mr. J. Lyons, some did just do that, and wrote they did this.
    He later deleted it, but again I have saved the post.

    This man needs to be stopped.

  356. Along for the Ride said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Susan said, on April 24, 2010 at 12:18 pm
    What would happen if, say two dozen of us decided to do the same thing? Would we all be allowed to insert ourselves into the case and start taking videos, interviewing witnesses, lying about Judge Perry? Making up stories about the Judges and lawyers and then printing them as if they were true. Can you imagine the chaos if we did?
    …………
    Susan, have you seen the Law and Order SVU episode with the quasi Casey Anthony theme?
    The story line contains a scene quite similar to your description; a dozen bloggers interfering with a criminal investigation and the police’s dismay. I think you’ll get a kick out of it. You might be able to find it on the web somewhere, it stars Hillary Duff and the title of the episode is “Selfish”.

  357. Doug Wollenburg said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    Of course Mr. Kronk did it, look at the facts…His ex wife says so (She has no revenge motive). And all he had to do was take Caylee, then break into the Anthony’s house to grab items that would point to Casey, then break back in to replace these items, store Caylee’s body for months (Probably under grow lights to fake the plant growth and bug casings), then plant the body, then wait for all the fame and glory for finding her, plus the never ending love and thanks from the Anthony’s.

    Only one problem…Casey says someone else did it…But Casey’s a known liar so we can’t believe her.

  358. Nom de plume said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Susan and Tulpjes: I was so torn about whether I should respond to your posts or not. While I agree with both of you, I have been trying to keep from stirring it up. “I Say” made a good post over at Justice for Caylee at 10:28. I was hoping she would post it here, but she is probably trying to keep this to a minimum, also. You made me drag out my soapbox again! I believe that “if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem” but can’t convince myself that ignoring a fungus is the solution. It needs to be dealt with. There are too many wounds festering that need healing and closure. As I have stated before, the very LEAST he could do is to dedicate a blog to all those he has wronged, with a proper, sincere apology, but he is not going to do that. So, what’s a body to do?

  359. LMAO said, on April 24, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    And admit SS needs to chill.

  360. curious said, on April 24, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    CatCarr said, on April 24, 2010 at 1:47 am

    I read Bill’s “Let It Be” days ago and just now, the comments. Was hoping for the best. Does anyone know of a blog concerning Caylee Anthony where commentators are NOT trashing one another?
    *************************

    Yes….thehinkymeter.com

    No bashing allowed, just great discussion on the case & evidence.

  361. I Say said, on April 24, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Morality; Scruples; Virtue

    Boswell: I described to him an impudent fellow from “Orlando”, who affected to be a savage, and railed at all established systems. Johnson: “There is nothing surprising in this, Sir. He wants to make himself conspicuous. He would tumble in a hogstye, as long as you looked at him and called to him to come out. But let him alone, never mind him, and he’ll soon give it over.” Boswell: I added that the same person maintained that there was no distinction between virtue and vice. Johnson: “Why, Sir, if the fellow does not think as he speaks, he is lying; and I see not what honour he can propose to himself from having the character of a liar. But if he does really think that there is no distinction between virtue and vice, why, Sir, when he leaves our houses let us count our spoons.”

    Samuel Johnson: Boswell: Life

    PS., Orlando inserted in place of original text. (Scotland)

  362. curious said, on April 24, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    amazed said, on April 23, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Know who…… Is Cheney Masons wifes name Carol??? What a hoot that would be!!!

    *******************

    Is Richard Hornsby married?

  363. curious said, on April 24, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    If everyone stops feeding Knechel’s ego and removes him from the conversation he and his harpies will eventually turn on each other. By keeping him as part of the story you extend his 15 minutes. He is obviously a misogynst .

  364. RS said, on April 24, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    curious,

    you just answered a blog location question posed by one of his “harpies”…..perhaps you did not know it posts all the time at his site, only posted that here for some reason, which you answered.

  365. curious said, on April 24, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    I don’t read Knechel’s blog, used to long ago but then discovered he is a misogynst .

  366. CatCarr said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    curious… Thank you. I very much appreciate you taking my question seriously. However, the couple/few days of my participation in blog commenting are over. I am too new at this to know how to be a vocal part of the solution.

  367. curious said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    CatCarr said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Hinky is serious (for the most part, few giiggles here & there) discussion on the case. There is no discussion there about any of this crap. There is none of the stuff that goes on at other blogs or attacks on fellow commenters.

  368. nom de plume said, on April 24, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Curious – there is an exception- The commenters there do not bash each other, but on the day after the motion to recuse the Judge was issued, it was open season on a certain blogger, and it was allowed because he inserted himself in the case. After a couple of days, Val finally made them stop, but it was pretty gory during that time. Hinky does have a great blog.

    Thanks for the post, I Say.

  369. Susan said, on April 24, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Nom de plume, I understand how you feel. You want to drop the subject and at the same time it doesn’t feel resolved, right? I feel exactly the same way and I don’t like the feeling. I know there is still a lot of damage he can do as he states on his blog, “This is not over.” And I understand that discussing it on the blogs does exactly what curious has said, it feeds his ego. Now he is threatening the defense.

    Here’s how I’ve chosen to deal with it. I’m going to bring it to the attention of a few people in media. Not about Strickland, they already know all about that but about the fact that he is continuing. If they decide to look into it, great. If not, great. I’m not going to feed that little twerps ego any more than it already is. He’s useless. And I’m sick of him.

  370. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Marinade says:

    “To say I am still reeling from what J. Cheney Mason did just over a week ago is a gross understatement. I intend to return the salvo as hard as he threw it. I will not go quietly into the night.”

    “For better or for worse, God works in mysterious ways. If Mason wants to go out in a big blast blaze of glory, I predict he will implode right before our very eyes.”

    “Take good care of your health, Cheney, you are going to need it.”

    I’m sure I can’t be the only one that finds this type of diatribe concerning? Where is the line drawn between what we expect from someone who has shown himself to be less than stable, and negligence for turning a blind eye? Is this a man that should be allowed to waltz into the courtroom – unchecked – come the next hearing? Am I being overly dramtatic? I guess a case could me made for that opinion unless or until it was proven wrong.

  371. nom de plume said, on April 24, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Susan- yes, I feel exactly the same way. Also, there are commenters here that I respect, and even though I know they feel the same way, I don’t want them to start throwing stuff at us for refusing to let go ’til it thunders. I am not so much worried about feeding his ego, he keeps himself inflated without any help from me. I think it is a good idea to go to the media. I have even wondered if it would do any good to contact Adam Longo, channel 13 reporter, as MD has gone after him, now accusing him of being on the payroll of the defense. By the way, I liked your post upthread at 12:18. Very good question. What if.

    Knowwho, yes, that diatribe is of great concern. When I read “blogger fires back”, my jaw hit the floor. Unbelieveable. Well, at least they do scan for weapons at the court house. (he is probably the reason they started doing it LOL)

  372. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 24, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    At some time on April 19th, within the comments posted under the blog – “Blogger Fires Back” – Marinade made a statement to the effect that he was ‘off to buy a gun’. I made mention of this here previously.

    That comment has since been deleted (as so many others have been as well) but, a comment in response to it remains:

    Sallyg // April 19, 2010 at 2:02 pm: said: Yikes a gun?

    It’s easy to be quiet – until you wish you hadn’t been. This blogger has proven himself to go beyond blather.

    The blog written today by Marinade is titled: A Roll of the “Die”

    I sincerely hope that someone in authority is taking note!!

  373. nom de plume said, on April 24, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Know, his behavior, to say the very least, is erratic and worrisome. One reason I keep posting about it is that I am hoping that SOMEONE who can do something about it will take notice. There are lots of people who really don’t care which way the river runs, as long as it doesn’t run over them.

  374. Jack said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    Susan, you seriously need to get a hobby – maybe start with reading the Constitution to get an understanding of free speech.

  375. Jack said, on April 24, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    And that goes for your pseudonym Nom and whatever other names you are here under, too. lol

  376. The JBmission said, on April 25, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Jackson,
    Really. I wish I knew where to find a better link for the documents. Do you know?

  377. pavillion said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:26 am

    For all those media who** mongers with no place to go like Joy Wray, Melissa Earnest, Milsteads, Tengard aka Ahhhhhh. The other media fame slu* will take you in & guide you. You can all be on big happy family at smiling bobs aka ynw. He doesn’t mind those who insert for their own 15 minutes he’s on 6 minutes. You all belong together, go, go, go he’s waiting!!

  378. pavillion said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:28 am

    I meant 16 minutes

  379. pavillion said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:34 am

    The defense needs more attention seeking jerks willing to insert themselves in a baby’s murder trial for their own sick self gratification. It helps the defense to delay, delay, delay.

    Look what YNW did, new Judge means a do over for all motions. The trial will start in 2013 at this rate. Calling all media seeking whor** contact YKW immediately & he’ll show you the ropes.

  380. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:17 am

    Well, Jack, I have never posted on this blog under any other name, and I have been posting consistently for many, many moons. However, I have never seen a “jack” on this board. What other names are you going by? It is like you pointed out so well, FREE SPEECH. We are entitled to post our opinions, so who are you to tell us what to think and what to post. Amateur.

  381. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:21 am

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-casey-anthony-marinade-dave-20100425-24,0,4252926.story he gave an interview, not a word about mr Jefcoat, the lies; I think I am going to get a little sick now.

  382. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:32 am

    YCMTSU!
    Or I guess the Sentinel can?
    I think they’ve opened a can of worms here..what a puff piece of misinformation.

  383. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Jack said: “Susan, you seriously need to get a hobby – maybe start with reading the Constitution to get an understanding of free speech.”

    If you want to talk about the constitution, you realize, I’m sure, that there are limited exceptions to ‘free speech’ such as proscribable speech, which would include the ‘doctrine of fighting words’ and ‘threats of violence’?

    How does the discussion at hand, under the context that it is being discussed, warrant a comment about the First Amendment in the way that you asserted it?

  384. Hazaka said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:34 am

    —– huh ….. a 57 year old who lives “at home with his parents”???????

  385. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Sounded to me like the Sentinel reported what he told them and asked unflattering questions (like is is true you really live at home with your parents). I got the impression that the interviewer didn’t really like him, or at least that article did not seem slanted in his direction, they just reported the lies he told them.

  386. Hazaka said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:57 am

    nom —- I actually thought it was a horrible piece lacking in true “reportage” …. it was very flattering to Dave ….. accolades from him friends?? Not true journalistic style…and anyway ..what was the point? Quite amaturerish, I would say …

  387. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Yup, what a puff piece….

    The great thing about area blogs, also those areas under online articles for posting, is that people do get the full spectrum of his writing “skills” or lack thereof….

    …..no longer is it the case a newspaper reporter’s puff piece is left unchallenged.

  388. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:59 am

    I think the OS would like to have WFTV’s audience, something like that? So they try to get some of the action? lol David will probably think this is his day of glory. I wonder what mr Sirjef will think… Or mr Strickland. Or all the women that were, let we say, treated a bit not nice.

  389. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Well, considering he had to be aware the situation was not going to be… Let Be …..and that this article was coming out

    maybe his marmalettes will cease spamming this blog, other blogs too for that matter, posting their trumped up outrage about the subject still being discussed….

  390. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Maybe someone from WFTV, say, oh, I don’t know, perhaps, Kathi Belich, might take up the mantle and present the opposing view. She wouldn’t need to look far to begin her research…it’s right here!! Maybe the angle can be, “nice guy seeks to ‘take down’ Anthony defense team.”…..is there more to this marinade than ‘meats’ the eye?

  391. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Guys, you are right – it is a puff piece, but I was reading between the lines, maybe because it is beyond my understanding how ANYONE could like him. Sounded to me like it was being dictated by Dave what to put in the report, even imported his BF to attest to his sterling character. I thought the “57 year old living with his parents” was a dig of sorts. I could just picture the interviewer gritting his/her teeth (forgot to look at the name of the reporter) Surely the OS realizes he is a very controversial person – they want to sell newspapers. But, thinking back, that Orbbies (whatever the heck that is) came from the OS, didn’t it?

  392. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:24 am

    http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3830/6205703481602820.gif

  393. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:26 am

    “puff piece (plural puff pieces)

    A journalistic form of puffery; an article or story of exaggerating praise that often ignores or downplays opposing viewpoints or evidence to the contrary.”

  394. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:27 am

    He has the marinade david name registered on Go Daddy. Does this make him Puff Daddy?

  395. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Along – that was cute! Hope someone posts that at his site.

    You know who – That is good! You should be a reporter! If Kathi is approached with this, she should be made aware that he is very tidy when deleting his most damaging posts. There is a post over there now, someone asking, in so many words, how does he qualify for disability? How much are the taxpayers paying for him? Is is in a wheelchair? It is pretty good. (Bet it will be gone before long)

  396. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:34 am

    OK Ina, from your provided description, it is a puff piece! Puff Daddy. (snicker)

  397. David said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Isn’t it amazing how anyone touched by Casey Anthony or her family in this saga seems to get poisoned? Remember, in the end all this and all of our collective interest is about one thing…justice for Caylee…inexorably we wait for the day for the hammer to fall and to hear these words: “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury have you reached a verdict?” …………….

  398. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:09 am

    David said: “Remember, in the end all this…”

    No, I don’t agree. Sometimes things/issues/ morph and take on a life, all of their own.

    Justice for Caylee stands alone and those who invoke her name for the purpose of stifling other issues that flow from what originally brought us together, should be ashamed of themselves.

  399. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:10 am

    KWYS. It would be great if Kathi Belich di do an investigation into, and a story about Daves Blog. He has as has SS been deleting posts like crazy, trying to get rid of the horrible attacks he has mad, the vile comments about women, and of course he Post “The Department of Perversion” where he vicously maligned a competitor. A someone stated, this “fight” between Sirjeff & MD escalated when Dave brought a “cannon to a water pistol fight.” ( I don’t remember who I am quoting, nor if the verbige is exactly correct, but it’s pretty close)

    This guy, along with the Anthonys is getting a free pass from the people who should be putting a stop to their behaviors, but instead, defend them. Perhaps the message is, that he really isn’t worth the time it would take to expose hi. He has now with his “presser” opened the gates for anyone feeling so inclined, to post a comment at the Sentinel site. This could turn out to be the worst thing he has done.

  400. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Scuse the mistakes, I’m really ticked off and used flying blingers!

  401. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:37 am

    David – yes, the most important thing to remember is Caylee and justice for her terrible murder. That is why I get so disgusted at people who insert themselves, muddy the waters (intentionally or not) to divert the attention from Caylee, and could possibly have caused an even greater delay in that justice. It appears the justice will still move along, but no thanks to Dave. It could have gone in the the opposite direction. I feel totally justified in expressing my feelings about this man Dave and how he treats people at his whim. He is a loose cannon. Period.

  402. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:42 am

    In my humble opinion, anyone who could defend Dave, has not seen the other side of his face, or are cut from the same cloth. Birds of a feather flock together.

  403. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:50 am

    I have been trying really really hard not to be snarky, but has anyone noticed how he has airbrushed his teeth on his blog site. Damn!

  404. Hazaka said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Why oh why would anyone think this Dave guy needs more publicity? Let him fade into obscurity…….

  405. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:03 am

    It’s actually curious how the slant of the piece seems to be, “Dave Knechel is a Nice Guy.”

    It’s just what a blogger who has shown himself to be nasty and sexist, just to name a few of his lovely attributes, would want ‘out there’ while he’s in the spotlight. Did I miss the disclaimer that the spot is actual ‘a paid advertisement’? If not, what a coup. Friends in high places?

  406. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:31 am

    As per his usual “shoot from the hip” style, he forgot, I am sure, that once he put himself onto the front page of the Sentinel, he opened the floodgates for commenters to opine. It’s starting already, I think he may have shot himself in the foot finally! Jis poor old parents. His need for publicity exceeds their need for privacy and security. As HE announced he was securing a conferance room, (in a library) it is obvious he orchestrated the press interview. Incredible. Using Judge Sheaffers misfortune, brought on by the bragging of MD, to keep himself in the news. Can everyone spell needy?

  407. Hazaka said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Why is the focus on THIS blog … on HIM and HIS BLOG?? Hello??

  408. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:40 am

    Hazaka, HE made himself part of the case.

  409. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Can we spell NEEDY: Nasty Egoistic Egocemtric David: Yuck!

  410. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Egocentric

  411. Hazaka said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Amazed —– I realize that ….. but …. let’s not dwell on him…. apparently that’s what feeds him……. :-) and anyone seen NoNic?

  412. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:47 am

    Can we spell Sentinel: Sensationalism earnings needed to increese nasty economic level?

    That was sarcasm. Craig I understand if you ban me.

  413. Hazaka said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:48 am

    Ina said, ————-and where is Craig???? vacation? fed up? :-) :-)

  414. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:55 am

    Constantly Reading All Interesting Garbage :)

  415. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:59 am

    Hazaka – why do we focus on Dave? Speaking for myself, the same reason we focus on Casey. What she did was wrong, she needs to be punished for what she did. We will not give up or rest until we see that she pays for what she did, and not allowed to skip happily out of her “little situation” unscathed.

  416. Hazaka said, on April 25, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    nom de plume ——- okay –each to his or her own…..

  417. sirjef8 said, on April 25, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:10 am
    KWYS. It would be great if Kathi Belich di do an investigation into, and a story about Daves Blog. He has as has SS been deleting posts like crazy, trying to get rid of the horrible attacks he has mad, the vile comments about women, and of course he Post “The Department of Perversion” where he vicously maligned a competitor.

    AMAZED – - while I appreciate your comments on my behalf and your support – -along with everyone else’s – - I just want to make it clear that I am NOT a competitor of MD – - I do NOT own a blog – - I’ve never posted on any blog except RS Justice for Caylee and the old WFTV Blog – until recent weeks when I have made a few post here and on BAB – - also – - I’ve never posted under any name except Sirjef8.

    Again, thanks for all your support and your realization of the TRUTH – - Justice will be served in this situation as well as for CAYLEE.

  418. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Sirjef8 said: “Justice will be served in this situation as well as for CAYLEE.”

    Agreed. They are separate issues. Marinade is seeking to parlay his 15 minutes for self-serving reasons. He deserves to be exposed.

    Hazaka said: “let’s not dwell on him…. apparently that’s what feeds him”

    I disagree. What feeds him is praise – having his ego stroked – being absolved from any responsibility for a situation that otherwise MAY have gave him some pause. The last I believe, really spurred him to action and therein lies the thought behind my username and purpose for first posting on this blog. I mean no offense to anyone by making the statement. There’s a saying – you don’t know, what you don’t know. I’m sure a few eyes have been opened of late.

  419. wtf said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    The comments posted after the puff piece in the Sentinel do not seem to reflect a fan club for Mr Knechel.

    Perhaps they will now do some homework before extolling his so called virtues any further. Anybody wonder if his best friend is also a woman hater? Must be nice to have the tax payers of Florida support you while you live at home and sponge off your aged parents.

  420. snoopysleuth said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    sirjef8~~I have no squabble with you but I think you should get your facts straight. I have not been deleting anything at MD’s blog. First off, I do not have the password to access and administer his blog. I maintain my own blog. In the future, do not accuse me of getting rid of anything that you consider evidence of some wrong doing.

    It is one thing to come in here under a persona and make accusations, but be prepared to prove them. I am not Marinade Dave and Mr Sheaffer’s post was in reference to Judge Strickland stepping down and the reason the motion was filed. I am constantly being maligned in here by certain individuals and it is allowed to go on. For the best part, I do my best to ignore it but, if it continues, it will be made known to outlets so they can see what goes on in the blog of a prominent lawyer, who I respect. I do not think that Mr Sheaffer knows exactly what takes place in this blog but I will contact him, personally, if this continues.

    Here is an example. Craig Mazer was notified to delete it immediately. I am saving it to a file so the proper people will have access to it. I am sure Mr Sheaffer does not condone these kind of comments.

    I Say said, on April 24, 2010 at 5:03 pm snoopysleuth // April 24, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Hi Dave et al…. another great post.

    Our judical system has almost become a mockery.
    ———–

    What is the wise one saying here? “Our judical system”? Our Judicial System is not her Judicial System unless of course she is admitting that she is not Canadian. Let’s assume that she is really a Canadian, I take umbrage that she would call ours hers and that, she, thinks it is a mockery. Maybe she thinks that having her nose so far up Dave’s anal orifice that she is an American by proxy. Oh, and notice the judical not my typo, hers.

  421. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    SS, all due respect, what is your point? It is blatantly obvious that much has been deleted, from his blog, in particular, Department of Perversion, it is also blatantly obvious that in addressing sirjeff, you again are crying foul for yourself and Dave. Not one little I’m sorry for what was done to HIM by Dave, and condoned by the twelve or so of you there. I would say the highlighted remarks are nothing in comparassion to some that have escaped the lips of MD and yourself.Yet you seem to think they are so disparaging that you had to report it, and save it, and cry about it. Some sense of fairness and equality you both have. Not to mention your disgusting post about Ina and Tinkerbelle, which has also disappeared. Sometimes ye reaps what ye sows.

  422. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Oh Hi McTavish! :) ” Notified to delete it immediatley, “the guy has days off maybe, give him a break, and why should he listen to your commando’s. He is not md?
    How often have you lied and ranted in here, screaming stuff that I don’t even want to repeat? How often have you not lied about me stalking Marinade Dave and about me wanting to sex with him ? Also on my blog, with the nick McTavish, but the ip of Detwill39, which is you. And now again you come in here, on this blog, to tell how it should be done, that is funny if you know how you write in comments, blogs and reply’s. Pot and kettle. Perhaps you should take your own advice and stop doing the stuff you do to others. The things you dare to say in the potty kind of way, are a lot worse than we can ever think off in here.

  423. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    A personal undisguised visit.. must be a fake. lol

  424. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    lol C :)

  425. BG said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Snoopysleuth- I have seen many remarks about you on this blog.

    Perhaps you are confusing it with all the other blogs/commenters who don’t like you?

    Can’t you just let Dave have the spotlight for once, jeesh, you are always trying to steal his spotlight.

  426. talking2much said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Speaking of getting the facts straight…Snoopy, Sirjeff never said you deleted any commments. I would wager he has no clue as to who you are and probably couldn’t care less.

  427. BG said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    correction: haven’t seen many remarks about you on this blog.

  428. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Wait, the fact that that comment was removed, was the problem. I am a bit lagging in understanding. Snoopysleuth rahter had it stay on the blog? (I really don’t understand lol) Be glad it is gone if you don’t like it?

  429. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    I maintain my own blog. In the future, do not accuse me of getting rid of anything that you consider evidence of some wrong doing.
    ……
    Rats desert a sinking ship.
    Glenda La Tour LOL! Puleeze! Somebody must be watching Carol Burnett reruns on Nic at Night :D

  430. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Oh My God,

    I am now one of those in Snoopy’s file. I have finally arrived. I guess if it weren’t true, she wouldn’t have to come in here and defend it. And in “Our Judicial System, we have the right to free speech.

  431. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    I know that I responded to SS input here, but in hindsight I wish I had responded to her at the site of the story on the Sentinel site. I am sure her remarks were intended to stir the pot, make us angry and have Craig ban a lot of people. It is always the prize they are waiting for. I am however amazed that she was able to comment, as she announced that she had had herself banned from this site. Gee ANOTHER lie?

  432. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Congrats I say. Perhaps you even get your personalized thread :)

  433. snoopysleuth said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    I refuse to respond to the ‘paranoid’ individual who makes assumptions! I addressed my comments to sirjef8. If the rest of you want to continue to bash me, carry on because you are giving me more ammunition to show the proper people. Why don’t you show Mr Sheaffer the proper respect by discussing this post? Good day!

  434. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    “do not accuse me of getting rid of anything that you consider evidence of some wrong doing.”

    “snoopysleuth // April 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm
    Dave~~please recant what you said about those people being on Dennis Milstead’s payroll. Dennis doesn’t have enough money these days to pay anyone. Just edit that out of the comments.. I realize they are screen names but Dennis is well known. Alot of things said in jest lately have been taken out of context.
    Let Bees Knees and the rest of them beat their gums else where and just ignore them … Reading their comments is like rooting around in a garbage bag trying to find your supper.”

    Marinade Dave // April 21, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    Oh, Snoopy, I fixed it, but I just wanted to show them what power I still have over them. It’s like Moses parting the Red Sea. Chicken feathers are flying all over the Sheaffer blog, I’m sure. I can hear the clucking from here.

    Hmmmmmmmm

  435. muesli said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Ms. SS, you will “contact personally”. So, what is new? Contact everyone, anyone, FBI, the president, blah, blah, blah. Oh, we are so afraid. Look what your admired leader did. He put a stain on a most honorable man, who really is someone. A man who is highly educated, and an upholder of the law of the land. Without people such as Judge Strickland, we would be in an anarchy. Chaos.

  436. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    the only foul feathers I see flying are the ones from the old hen.

  437. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    SnoopySleuth said: “I am constantly being maligned in here by certain individuals and it is allowed to go on. For the best part, I do my best to ignore it but, if it continues, it will be made known to outlets so they can see what goes on in the blog of a prominent lawyer, who I respect.”

    I’m feeling a real need for truth and honesty today. In light of that, as well as your not so veiled threat (?) above, I went back and counted the time your name was mentioned within these comments. Here’s the results:

    ——-MoCutie said, on April 22, 2010 at 12:43 am:

    FYI: McTavish=Snoopy

    That’s why she feels entitled to call Mr. Sheaffer by his given name.

    Ina said, on April 22, 2010 at 2:01 am

    Mc Tavish has the same ip as Snoopysleuth, mc tavish commented on my blog. So there is the reason she said Bill—————–

    That would equal 2.

    Also, I’ve got to ask, who are the “proper people” who would need “access” to an opinion that the poster you quoted has of you?

    I don’t think it would take me but 5 minutes to find examples to bolster that opinion. In any case, opinions are just that, opinions. Most everyone has one.

  438. sirjef8 said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    What on God’s green earth is Snoopy talking about????? I have never posted anywhere that she has deleted comments from MD’s blog – -I’ve never posted anything – - “good – bad – nor indifferent” – about him/her anywhere.

    You’re so right – T2M – I don’t have a clue who SS is or is not – - and frankly my dear – I don’t give a [fill in the word]!

    Nor – have I ever come to this blog – or any other – - under a “persona” and made accusations about anyone – - this FACT can be proven by the blog owner – simply by checking my IP address against the IP address of those SS might think is me posting under a “persona”.

    I didn’t ask to become a “victim” of MD nor have I victicmized him in any way.

    SS – please get your facts straight.

  439. pavillion said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    I’m not going to read the puff piece at the Orlando Sentinel. It will just piss me off. But can’t you all comment there? You’re giving critisms of it here, why not unleash your outrage inder the article?

    That would be very cool. Just like I can’t watch interviews of those 2 lying twis George & Cindy I finally am fed up with smiling bob & can’t stomach any puff piece done in his honor..gag! But hose with a fight left in them & can read that garbage without getting sick I’d tell the author of this misinformation what you think.

  440. snoopysleuth said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    I Say~~and what did I personally delete? I made a request to Dave to delete a portion of comments so his words would not be taken out of context. I try and help him maintain a mature and well run blog. Is this a crime? I asked him to ignore comments made on this blog. The bashing of MD and myself has gone on in here long before the motion for Judge Strickland to be dismissed. One particular individual has her own personal agenda for doing so along with a few others who were banned from blogs because of their disruption. Yes, reading some of the comments in here is like routing around in garbage. I said that and stand by it.

  441. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    for some reason she wants the “last word”.

  442. pavillion said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    McTavish is just mad cause her & Smiling Bob can’t control the situation. The lids blown off & everyone’s got their number.

    No bullying, no threats nothing will make the webistes popping up of their victimes who they’ve slandered, what ED Bob did Judge Strickland go away.

    The snowball is now an avalanche & these control freak nitwits can’t threaten us to squash our right to free speech.

  443. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    She does , eh. Well if she thinks she is bashed by moi, OH SO SORRY!
    Just to let you know: I NEVER WANTED TO BASH A LADY AND AN GENTLEMAN! And I wasn’t aware I did. :) As ladies and gentlemen don’t lie, harass, blackmail etc.

  444. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Well, snoopysleuth, why are you slumming?
    Please, notify the PROPER people LOL.
    We can’t hope to entertain you with such refined prose as your mentor Dave who wrote:
    “Take good care of your health, Cheney, you are going to need it.”
    After your nonstop drama about the snowbank joke, I can only imagine your reaction were one to substitute your name in that sentence.
    Shall we give it a whirl for lulz:
    “Take good care of your health, SS, you are going to need it”

  445. Susan said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    something weird..I was reading all the negative comments about ykw over on the orlando setinel site.there were about 60 comments, maybe more. all of them were negative except for one. and then all of a sudden all of those comments disappeared and now there’s only three comments. so if you made a post there earlier it’s gone now. weird.

  446. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Who owns that OS? Is it a private company? (I don’t understand your broadcasting system at all)

  447. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    We are ignoring you.

  448. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    there are still 3 pages of negative comments over there.

  449. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    I checked, you must click on the comments view button, they are still there.

  450. pavillion said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    MaTavish-

    Go outside & look at some daylight, do a couple of chair wheelies, get some excersise. Take a shower, brush your teeth, unmat your hair. Use deoderant change your smelly pj’s into clean pj’s. Have a priest do an exorcism & cast the demons from your soul.

    Get off the computer for 5 minutes & get some perspective to what you all have done others.

    Judge Strickland..that bell can’t be unrung an umblemished career marred by some egotistical bore who wanted his 15 minutes. Well the gig is up & you all are facing consequences.

  451. LMAO said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Ha ha Pavillion. Good one. Oops, SS doesn’t like one liners. Sorry SS.

  452. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Pavillion.. good show there. lmao

  453. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    I think McT come in here to disrupt? don’t anyone let that happen.

  454. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Am I paranoid to find comments like this rather offensive?
    ” McTavish
    McTavish@(ip deleted for privacy reasons etc)

    2010/04/17 at 6:18 pm

    INA IS A STALKER AND BEGGED MD FOR CYBER SEX. SHE PROFESSED HER LOVE TO ME IN AN EMAIL AND HE TOLD HER HE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN MARRIED WOMEN. SHE COULD NOT STAND THE REJECTION AND NOW IS OUT FOR REVENGE. INA YOU ARE MENTAL. DID YOU MEET YOUR HUSBAND IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL??”

    I mean, of course I can be a saint and ignore. I did that first, but it never stopped really. I don’t understand why she says I professed my love to her. I don’t bend that way at all??

  455. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    :oops:

  456. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    I don’t know SS, never once read MD’s blog before he shot himself in the foot, but I have read plenty about her on other blogs, and none of it was good.

    With his rants and rags on the defense attorneys, he shot himself in the knee cap. Now, with this latest faux pas (Sentinel article) I believe the boy has done shot himself in the _______. His aim keeps getting higher. I believe the boy is brushing his teeth with gun powder, just can’t quit shooting his mouth off (but wish he would shoot it off). Maybe next time he reloads.

    With the grand entrance of SS on this fine blog, why did I just remember the old saying, “as welcome as a pork chop at a Jewish picnic”?

    SS- if you condone his actions you are either ignorant or just as vile as he is. There is no other explanation. Amen

  457. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    It take some serious cajonies to come in here and throw her weight around threatening and just proving what I have seen others saying about her.

    What I would like you to do Ms. Sleuth, is please explain how this,

    http://us.loadedweb.com/search/posts/sirjef8/

    was justified and why YOU would defend anyone who would do this to someone no matter how much he disliked the person. This was unconscionable and cannot be defended. IMO But please will you take a moment for us and opine why you still support this person. I don’t believe that even You would stoop this low. At least I want to believe that.

  458. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    SnoopySleuth said: “Yes, reading some of the comments in here is like routing around in garbage. I said that and stand by it.”

    So, what would your point be? You ARE allowed an opinion, or, I know, you’ve forgotten that because you’ve been playing around at Marinade’s for far too long and have learned to wait until an opinion is provided to you. I know,I know, you disagree with him all the time and he doesn’t tell you what to say, think or do…I know, I’ve heard all about it, but I read differently and I’ve come to a different conclusion. See how that works, that last statement would be my opinion and I’m entitled to it.l

    Now, if this was Dave’s site, you would simply at this point be put into moderation and he would talk about you while he laughed about you ‘being in there’. He would pass judgment on your comments but not allow you “IN” to respond in kind.

    Now, wouldn’t you agree, this is a much better way to operate a public forum. You are allowed to be a person here, Snoopy, and retain your dignity. How’s that for a bit of fresh air.

  459. Susan said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Good work I Say. She will not be back to defend that unconscionable bit of posting. There can be no defense of it. In fact, I dare any one of his cronies to come here and defend that. Can you hear me SS? How about Vicky? Frankie? Karen C.? Laura? Come on. Just one of you. Explain please?

  460. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Yes, I say, I would like an answer to that question to SS.

    Wish Cindy and George would answer that about Casey. She is their daughter. Has SS ever met Dave?

  461. snoopysleuth said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    There you go Mr Sheaffer! My visit today will give you an idea of what I was referring to. The fabrications about me all designed to make it impossible to participate on your blog. If I have any questions for you in the future, I will contact you via email. Thank you Bill.

  462. Susan said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    You know they are all lurking but they are like bats. Or rats. Something that doesn’t like the harsh bright light of truth. They prefer to hide behind their usernames promoting their master’s lies. They are not decent. They are not good. They are bad women. If it were otherwise they would be here defending what they support. But where are they?

  463. Susan said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    See? They run and hide. They cannot speak up truthfully.

  464. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Nom .. it DOES kinda look like he brushed his teeth with gunpowder..

    @@I say,
    e-mail that link to the reporter who did the sentinel story. Maybe they actually haven’t seen it, and since he deleted it thank goodness for people like you saving it.

  465. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    SS, I’m quite sure Mr. Shaeffer and everyone else reading this exchange knows exactly why its impossible for you to answer the simple question posed.
    One can’t defend the indefensible.

  466. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    even in bold print LOL

  467. Susan said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    SS you say that you try and help MD maintain a mature and well run blog. Then surely you must admit defeat as it is not working. Did you go to all blogs in this past week to read comments? Every single blog from The Daily Caylee to The Hinky Meter and every blog in between was packed with heavy criticism regarding MD. You can’t deny it. It has nothing to do with the people at this blog. IT IS EVERYWHERE. It is every blogger you’ve ever read and respected has had the exact same things to say about that blog. How does that happen? BECAUSE IT’S TRUE. Until you can admit there’s a problem it will never change. So get used to it.

  468. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    do you think we all will be banned because she is trying to run this blog the same way she runs the self labeled scapegoat’s?

  469. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    the bold means she means business. lol

  470. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    SnoopySleuth said: “There you go Mr Sheaffer! My visit today will give you an idea of what I was referring to. The fabrications about me all designed to make it impossible to participate on your blog.”

    Oh, is that what you were trying to do, participate on the blog. I hadn’t realized…guess the intent got lost in your threat (?) – “if it continues, it will be made known to outlets so they can see what goes on in the blog of a prominent lawyer,” and the retelling of your demand to Craig Mazer to, “delete it (something) immediately.”

    Maybe you might find more acceptance if you change your approach?

  471. SomeonesSister... said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    …we’re waiting to hear your defense of this latest little trick…..and please, don’t pretend you knew nothing about it because we all watched the whole thing play out…..we all read your instructions to harrass that innocent man…..we all read your replies about how many times you phoned him and who answered when you did…..you women were complicit….

  472. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    Its obvious, she had to make up an excuse and run away.
    She can’t defend MD’s instabilities, so what other choice did she have?
    She knows he’s got an anger management problem, she’s the one always trying to interrupt his meltdowns.
    She hasn’t the integrity to come clean with all the shennigans MD is pulling on his ravenous quest for fame.

  473. SomeonesSister... said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    …..what fabrications is SS talking about? the fabrications her master made up about that innocent blogger?

  474. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Sad to see SS doing the same as MD, dragging a prominent attorney into her personal fight with….. well just about everyone. One can only hope that the moderator sees that SS came here to incite, and did so. I will bet dollars to donuts that she didn’t make her demands at any other site than this one.

    Hows that Department of Perversion doing for you guys? Still haunting you?

  475. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    My God Snoopy does it take a brick to fall on your head to realize that you are backing the wrong horse here, and there. Is what I posted above not your and Dave’s exact words? Is that a fabrication? Christ sake woman, wake up and read the blogs. You are almost as hated as Marinade Dave. How must that feel to you? I honestly feel sorry for you because I really think that you are so naive to believe that MD gives a crap about you. You know if you cross him the wrong way, you will be right here as another one of his victims.

  476. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    The e-mail and phone number of the reporter who did this story is located at the end of the article. I will be e-mailing her and hope others will do the same. That link regarding sirjeff would be well worth sending.
    One should be very careful of what one has done to others before asking to be put on the front pages of the news. For someone who complained that he was thrust under a microscope, begging to be interviewed was a kind of silly choice.

  477. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    I Say said: “You know if you cross him the wrong way, you will be right here as another one of his victims.”

    How true. If you are not with Marinade, you’re against him. Not on the same page as him…off with your head (or languish in moderation).

    I think that most of his ladies know this however, that’s why when they do stray for a quick second, make a comment that might not sit right with him or hold a different opinion, they’re right back on track and on the same page just a few posts later, stroking that insatiable ego of his.

  478. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    amazed,

    Save your time, talk about sneaky censorship and deletions…Sentinel deleted over 60 comments about marmalade..see first link below only 5 or so now, see 2nd link for the missing 60…it would appear that reporter intended to do a puff piece and make it stick for Sentinel to resort to that level of censorship to delete 60 plus comments….

    Maybe e-mail and ask what is up with the sneaky censorship by removal of dozens upon dozens of comments below her article…

    orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-casey-anthony-marinade-dave-20100425-24,0,6256927,full.story

    discussions.orlandosentinel.com/20/orlnews/os-casey-anthony-marinade-dave-20100425/10

  479. Nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Hi guys, did you miss me? I was over at OS throwing a little more lighter fluid on the fiire. I see you all did good without me. Man, that SS post in bold really has me shaking! Sad really, she is so transparent. It is really killing her that she can’t delete us because we don’t do the goose step. Her whip cracking just doesn’t work here in the 3rd grade. She should stay at MDs. That is a real brain trust over there.

  480. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    RS,

    Go to the bottom and there is a view all comments. They have not all been deleted. I have been watching it all day. BTW, the link about sirjeff8 has been posted on the OS blog twice today by someone named AngryAsHell.

  481. LMAO said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    When I click on it there are 79 comments.

  482. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    I am still seeing all the comments RS, but I will email and ask that question. if when I go back they are missing. If that is the case, what is it with these people. I thought the news was about the truth.

  483. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Oooh, now McTavish/SS is SHOUTING in bold–lmao–that might intimidate at your cess pool but it won’t work here. Very uncool & not good pc protocol.

  484. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    Appears they relinked them….it was down to 5..now says 78 or so…

  485. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    She is special, her comments should always be bolded. ;)

  486. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    It seems to me someone posted here, just to get negative feedback to let BS “know”. I doubt he really cares about any of this. This is WFTV site where Mr. Schaeffer writes a blog. What I do not get is, no one knows our real names and no real names were mentioned here (or on any blog) (Unless you have mentioned previously of writing an article with your real name that has been posted on the internet!). Unfortunately MD has been named in this case and there is a legit reason to be discussing him.

    I highly doubt Snoopysleuth had anything to do with deleting with any comments or posts being delted on that site. NUMEROUS things have been deleted (edited) such as: every single comment that was negative from the time the defense motion came out, every single post calling women b*tches/hormonal women/raggy women, the cry to harrass that PI, all the comments begging him to please! stop doing that (inludes ALL of mine), the “My honor, your pleasure…” article (and all comments. Included in those comments were more “b*tchy women etc. comments), the lunch comment and the “Perversion” post. Apparantly due to the hits on the blog that were known were going to be increasing due to the exposure of blogger, anything negative said by the blogger or commenter were removed. The covering up of all of above? I was surprised coming from someone who is hellbent on “honesty”. I told this blogger IO would not bash him, after I was banned. However…..since I cannot comment there, because I voiced my oppostion to the deragatory comments regarding women and my being totally appalled at the request to harrass that PI, I am commentin here.

  487. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Unlike regular old commenters, if uhave a wordpress blog, you are able to “bold/italiscize” your comments…Unfair!!

  488. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Hi LNY,

    I agree that SS had an agenda in posting here today, I think she wanted to distract people from the OS site knowing that MD would get hammered. It didn’t work.

  489. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    LindafromNewYork? Were you not up until very recently one of Marinade’s tireless defenders? If so, I guess you are a real live example of the comment I just made above.

  490. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    You can bold if you HTML. Just checking.

  491. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    I bet Glenda La Tour and farrah hair can bold. ;)

  492. Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    KWYS. Yes she was, and she was also very honest the whole time she commented there. I was there under a different name, and believe me that she told him when he did the things he did. She got royally trounced by SS for it on many occasions. I did not become a victim of his banning as I chose to not comment there after one of his disgusting attacks on one of his followers. Until the sirjeff incident, I neverreally made my feelings of him known, now I plain and simply don’t like what the man stands for or how he conducts himself.

  493. BB said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    There is a lot of combat here which is probably from past bumps in the road. Is it from
    people who have been banned at Marinade Dave’s in the past. If MD has had reason to ban maybe he has kept those comments who said things he did not find appropriate. If so maybe he will open a room so we can read them and know what was said on his blog not appropriate to the topic. I mean comments that were meant to be read in the first place but were banned. NOT E-MAIL If all the dislike about him here stems from his request of no Anthony bashing on his blog, he did nothing so terrible by banning.

    I have been Looking back at the posts. SS was there pretty much in the beginning as a commenter, she was quick to find facts for anyone who inquired. He has been willing to run out and take pictures and also personally respond to people. it is easy to see someone became needed as a blog takes a lot of time and if it started to be overrun by comments that did not discuss the topics, only hateful spin. There were plenty of other places to do that. The MD blog was a welcoming place just like Mr. Sheaffer started.
    I don’t participate much but it was also great to have this blog introduced and have an Attorney At Law be here for questions and comment. We have begged him to come back but some of the comments are as disrespectful to his effort as the remarks to MD and others have been.

  494. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    I can hear the wheels turning. lol

  495. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    BB, I have never posted on his site, nor am I banned anywhere.
    This isn’t a holy temple, there’s no ‘disrespect’.
    The only spin going on is from MD and his camp.

  496. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    BB said: “If all the dislike about him here stems from his request of no Anthony bashing on his blog, he did nothing so terrible by banning.”

    Ya, that’s it….

  497. Gracie said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    BB,
    MD is not a truthful person. He is an instigator, a pot-stirrer and just plain mean-spirited. By the way, Mr. Sheaffer is back. This is his most recent blog.
    God Bless America and our right to free speech.

  498. BB said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    OK, Just outside looking in. not familiar with personal particulars. I guess if Mr. Sheaffer
    is bothered he will speak for himself as it should be.

  499. SomeonesSister... said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    BB if I’m understanding you, you are saying the reason Bill Sheaffer hasn’t been back is because of some disrespectful comments? If that is what you are saying it is not true. Bill Sheaffer has always said that he will not stand in the way of free speech on this blog. We are encouraged to discuss anything pertaining to the case. The only thing Craig has ever asked of us is not to call each other names. I think we manage to make our points without name-calling most of the time. We do sometimes describe MD as a misogynist but that’s only because he is one. Craig has also felt the sharp tongue of Mr. MD so is sympathetic to our problem. The reason Bill doesn’t comment often is because he is super busy and has other things going on in his life right now. You can confirm that with Craig if you so wish.

  500. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Free speech here but not at the MD blog. I believe we duly respect Mr Shaeffer and the memory of Little Caylee. We are not here to make a buck.

  501. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    To be blunt MD called Craig a sexual deviant..why?? No particular reason, imo he wants to ruin this blog & is insanely jealous of Sheaffer’s popularity. And Craig doesn’t put up with ED smiling bob’s shi**.

  502. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    BB said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    OK, Just outside looking in. not familiar with personal particulars. I guess if Mr. Sheaffer
    is bothered he will speak for himself as it should be.

    ______________________________

    Yes he will & has an excellent moderator Craig who reminds us every once in a while that he’s the one to past judgement on what’s acceptable or not not you. Craig & Sheaffer know the deal with MD & Craig will delete any inappropriate comments.

    Don’t worry about poor little ss/mcTavish or ED Bob/MD. We are the least of their problem, they’re getting hammered in a much cruder fashion all over the internet because the Judge Strickland fiasco shines a light on just how low these bottom feeders are.

  503. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Amazed, thanks for having my back.

    KWYS-I am not a victim of anyone. LOL! I stopped coming here long ago, because I was attacked for commenting over there. I did try to read here, but it was almost always about the MD blog.So, when I got attacked I attacked back. NOW there is a legit reason to discuss that.
    When this blog first started and commenters from over there were commenting about “mdereration” over here, I let i be known that I thought it was innapropriate to tell another blog how/what to do. In fact, those feelings were made known on the “talk with the judge” comments (now deleted). I do not agree with anyone “just to agree”, However, I try to “disagree” in the nicest of ways….

    BB, yes some were banned for a “reason”. I was NOT rude or rotten or named called when I stated my dissatisfaction with the name calliing of women or the PI thing. Unfortunately, I cannot substantiate that because it has ALL been deleted. ANY negativity, even the ones done in a sensible way, even the regulars (who I was, up until, what? a week and half ageo, begging to please please stop calling women the B word, please please take down the PI info, were ALL deleted.! I was banned and have no reason to be sorry for how I felt… I was told I was not a “friend”. So, as a wise woman once told me, when referencing being “friends” on a blog:

    snoopysleuth // January 19, 2010 at 9:41 pm
    Linda~~Snoopy is not mad at anyone. To me, you are a name on a blog with a green gravatar. I read your type and respond to the best of my ability. I do not have any emotional ties to any contributors here or at my own blog.
    —-I had saved that a long time ago…it was from the now deleted post regarding the meeting with the judge…

  504. BB said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    SomeOneSister, I do not think that is why he was not back for a long time. He surely is most likely very busy. Whatever is going on I commented from what I read today. I need to still sorting it out. Mr. Sheaffer wrote some here including Dave Knechel so I thought he may feel comments sounded against him also. Like said before, It is his business not mine. I forgot about freedom of speech when I first commented today.

  505. SomeonesSister... said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    That’s not a problem BB. What you might want to understand is all of this anger and animosity towards md and his blog did not happen over night. It took over a year to piss off as many people as he has. Many of them are long gone, moved on to calmer pastures no doubt but some of us remain and this latest move where his lies caused good Judge Strickland to recuse himself would be enough for most people to show a bit of humility but O no…..not that bunch. One of them lies and the other swears to it. They are nasty and md is the nastiest of them all.

  506. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Linda, you will be ridiculed over there big time now. But it will all be deleted by him with her advising him to do so. Amusing the way they work. he takes his ball and goes home.

  507. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Marinade Dave // April 25, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    That bitch tupljes has accused me of something I haven’t done. She is noor. Go to town with her. She, Thinker Belle and Ina are lesbians and I have the proof.

    noorbe3@yahoo.com

    Beat the living crap out of her. Up next, her home address, along with Ina’s. Ina sent me love letters. How else would I know? You want a war? This sirjef8 guy has kept it going. I have just begun.

    By the time I am done with him, he will be a queen.

  508. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    I should a put the comment I just made is the most recent comment on the DM blog right now. he hasnt got any class atall.

  509. wtf said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    snoopysleuth said, on April 25, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Miss Sloppy Sleuth – ARE YOU ON CRACK?

  510. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    snoopysleuth // April 25, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Dave…delete
    __________________

    so ya see the last comment from him was made at 6:29 and here we have ss at 6:36 ordering him to delete it. How long before he obeys. Too bad we couldn’t start a pool. I say it’ll be gone within an hour.

  511. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    C- First, I guess I stand corrected regarding “bolding” LOL!
    Andif I am ridiculed, I am ridiculed. I was ridiculed here too and I LIVED! haha Anyway, listen, I DID enjoy discussing the case with the commenters there and don;’have anything bad to say… Life will go on for all. All I’ve wanted to do is discuss the Caylee Anthony Murder Case…wherever I can find those who want to discuss. More than likely I will end up at one place, like I did there. While I do blog-hop to read (unlike bar-hopiing in the younger days!), I usually just commented at MD’s and one or two other places.
    Peace…

  512. wtf said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Miss Sloppy – were you upset to find that you are not actually Dave’s best friend? I notice he gave no kudo’s in his puff piece. Sloppy, when you lay down with dogs you get fleas.

  513. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Wow, that guy and his alter ego snoopy have lost it…..a post like that is from a depraved mind.

  514. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    wow, he actually told ss to “Beat the living crap out of her. Up next, her home address, along with Ina’s. ” thats heavy.

  515. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Linda, yes, peace. lol

    I am sure some have copied all that again. I did so let it be deleted.

  516. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Holy smokes

  517. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Marinade Dave // April 25, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Ina was the first one to attack me this morning on BS. Bright and early. You have no idea how she has relentlessly pursued me and continues to this day. SHE IS A STALKER. And you slobs over there eat it right up. She is in her glory thanks to you. You enable her. I write something that attacks Casey’s defense and you attack me for it. This has gone FAR, FAR beyond Casey. No longer is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE an important factor. The day you attack me for going after her defense, this became a personal vendetta against me and no one else. You suck right up to Ina.

    I will start a war with you like you have never seen. You done crossed that line NOOR. I have just begun with you and your faerie boy slur punk. His address is coming right up and there’s not a thing you can do about it.

  518. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    actually md I believe it was YOU who took this beyond caylee..it became all about your ego. nothing more. you only have yourself to blame.

  519. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Just one thing…regarding Ina….No matter what is being discussed she brings MD’s name into it on a daily basis. Every day. Baiting… WAY before all of the recent stuff. So, just think about how often she has brought him up, at the most innappropriate times when that person was not even being discussed. Cannot seem to let go of “whatever” happened a long time ago. Her info was never ever put out there. Saw a select few e-mails. PRIVATELY, which proved to ME that she is and has been obsessed, again, with whatever….I am no dummy. I know what I am talking about. From a lot of comments seems to be Anti-American law… Thinks bloggers have been attacking the Anthony family for no reason. Seems to play “uninformed” often. She is enjoying the popularity from being an MD victim….everywhere. Just my take, opinion, and most of all, fact.

  520. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    I agree LNY……I think they deserve each other.

  521. wtf said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    #

    Marinade Dave // April 25, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Ina was the first one to attack me this morning on BS. Bright and early. You have no idea how she has relentlessly pursued me and continues to this day. SHE IS A STALKER. And you slobs over there eat it right up. She is in her glory thanks to you. You enable her. I write something that attacks Casey’s defense and you attack me for it. This has gone FAR, FAR beyond Casey. No longer is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE an important factor. The day you attack me for going after her defense, this became a personal vendetta against me and no one else. You suck right up to Ina.

    I will start a war with you like you have never seen. You done crossed that line NOOR. I have just begun with you and your faerie boy slur punk. His address is coming right up and there’s not a thing you can do about it.

  522. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    OMG-went to see what the hubub was about…publishing an e-mail address=NOT cool. Very disappointed. Not cool, in my book. Oh boy….

  523. wtf said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    Keep talking Dave, your true colours are showing again. At last you have admitted this is not about Justice for Caylee. It’s all about you & your crap. Just like you wanted.

  524. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Snoopysleuth // April 25, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    If Ina cant have you, she is going to make sure no one else does. She has been torturing me for the past year and a half and it did not get her anywhere.

    She googled an article that I wrote and exposed my real name and location on her blog. She threatened to contact my relatives and lie to them. She made fun of me because I am a paraplegic. She has been instrumental in turning folks against me at the BS blog and is also posting things about me at baldaintbeautiful. I am still here and I refuse to let her win. They posted videos of old ladies in wheelchairs to try and get to me but mainly they did it to get to you by bashing me.
    They even searched and found an obituary of my deceased daughter. These people are SICK.

    Please, if I can handle it all…you can do Dave..

  525. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    hope everybodys taking screenshots cause this will all disappear by morning.

  526. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    Looks like it’s all going to be right here. lol Like watching a volcano blow..

  527. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    thats funny big pink. I was right. I said the comments would disappear in less than an hour and they are.

  528. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    what an ass.

  529. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7/fotoflexerphotojg.jpg

  530. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Also NOT cool to make fun of someone’s disabilty. THAT is pathetic and she should be ashamed of herself.

  531. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    those people cant see the forest thru the trees.. as they say.

  532. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    I haven’t seen her do that

  533. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    I am swiching back and forth from facebook. It is like night and day! LOL! Everyone LIKES eachother there. LOL!

  534. CB said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Marinade Dave // April 25, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    I have since discovered that Ina is truly warped. She does not believe in God, but she fully worships Satan. She sneaks in like a thief in the night and has you under her thumb. I cast her out. To this day, from many months ago, she is relentless. Non-stop stalking. I am going to publish everything, including photographs of love letters she sent me. You people over there have no idea what she has been hiding behind her HUSBAND’S back. She publishes stuff and I have held back long enough. The gloves are off. Ina? You cannot live a life of lies any longer. You are all of the problem.

    *************

    Dave’s latest ramblings, he has lost the plot.

  535. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Haven’t read all the comments, I had to stop when I read the one about Ina being a lesbian, and in practically the same breath said she sent love letters to him – what does that make him? A liar perhaps?

  536. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    LOL…nom de…

    you took my post, i was going to post that SAME thing….how can he claim she is that and writing him letters too….

    I’d say get the men in white coats with the butterfly net and have him scooped up and evaluated, something is wrong..

  537. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    He says Ina is a lesbian, then says she wrote love letters to him. What does that make him? A lesbian? A liar?

    BigPE – snicker.

  538. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    do you think he’s read all the comments about him on OS yet?

  539. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Snap. I posted it twice. Didn’t see it the first time. Oh well.

  540. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Sounds to me like the lesbian thing is pay back. When you get hit, you hit back. I do!! LOL! I used to think to my self…For cryin’ out loud, Ina and her freakin’ lesbian friend are at it again…blah, blah blah, MD, blah blah blah, MD, blah blah blah, those bloggers blaming the Anthony family…blah, blah, Md…blah, those Americans and the DP, blah blah…

  541. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    I’d guess he read the OS comments and maybe got an e-mail or two from the reporter asking him what is up with the posting of a blogger under a sex offender image, among other questions…

    Hence, a meltdown, that truths have come to light.

  542. RS said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Yeah Linda, you said it was “payback” what was done to sir…

    Maybe you miss being at your old roost to view things the way you do..

  543. BEES KNEES said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Well, well, well . . . quite the day, I see! And Ina’s a lesbian Satanist in love with MD?!? WOW!

  544. LMAO said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    I saw Ina made some comments at his blog the other day.

    I must say it made her loose a little credibility from me, I mean, she b*tches about him all day everyday and then comments on his blog, seems a little 2 faced. The sad part is I bet she would welcome back his friendship in a heartbeat if he would give her the time of day.

    No offense Ina, you do give very mixed signals.

  545. BEES KNEES said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Who did he mean when he said, “I will start a war with you like you have never seen?”

    Tupljes that’s a real serious drag that he actually posted your email!!! WOW! WOW! WOW! Unbelievable. He was mad at me about a week ago but he only outted my real name. I guess I was lucky. I’m sorry that you weren’t.

  546. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Hey C-(I was gonna say Hi-C, but thought you would sound like the juice-haha-I am getting punchy).
    Do you mean not seeing Ina do that with the wheelchair thing to Snoopysleuth?
    Seems when people have a wordpress blog they have everyone’s e-mail address. I would not put it past her that she would e-mail Snoopysleuth with things like that. She plays innocent, but don’t believe it. I am the type of person that always tries to see both sides of things, peoples stories, etc. IMO, she reeks of BS with all of this. Very passive-aggressive with MD. Just check out her blog.

  547. fakename said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    all of blogdom is going after MD, and he only has the balls to go after Ina, him and his hens make me sick. Talk about being a pansy! Now they want to do a seperate blog, just to attack Ina, his name should be, I’mawaste.

  548. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Bees, did he really. What is up with that? I must’ve missed it. Again Not cool..(I guess that is my saying for the night!).

  549. BEES KNEES said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Yeah, he did. I can’t even remember why now.

  550. BEES KNEES said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    I agree with you about Ina. I stopped reading her comments a month or two ago. Luckily she has that bright orange gravatar so it’s easy to slip right by. She’s done nothing to me ~ it’s not like that. I stopped reading when it looked like she was just baiting everyone with redundant questions. It felt like it was all very insincere. But our man Craig likes her so she’s still around. And some of the other bloggers don’t mind her. I just don’t have the patience for that so we don’t really “speak” to each other. Ha ha ha . . .

  551. sirjef8 said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    It seems to me someone posted here, just to get negative feedback to let BS “know”. I doubt he really cares about any of this. This is WFTV site where Mr. Schaeffer writes a blog. What I do not get is, no one knows our real names and no real names were mentioned here (or on any blog) (Unless you have mentioned previously of writing an article with your real name that has been posted on the internet!).

    LINDA – - with respect – - I vehemently disagree – - MD posted my real full name – - plus my Blog name – -on his blog – - under the picture of a convicted child molestor – - and implied it was me – – continued his attack on me by pulling a picture of me from my facebook – - with scandalous remarks in a long post underneath – - – continued to use my full name for several days on his bog – -

    I have never posted my full name on any blog – - ever – - he went so far as to pull the names of friends of mine on face book and post them on his blog – - not to mention the many posts he made on his blog to victimize me as did his commenters/followers.

  552. fakename said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    I think Ina was just behind on us and all of our facts. IMO I think she is catching up and has had some very interesting opinions and good questions.
    unlike MD who tests me to know end

  553. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    linda. I am juiced.

  554. BEES KNEES said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    In my case he had my full name and address. There was this leaf, see . . .

    But it was very wrong of him to do what he did to you, sirjef8. He went waaaaaay overboard that time.

  555. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    yes. the wheelchair. maybe she was getting back at someone who was not so nice. everyone finds an excuse for their bad behavior. lol

  556. LindaNeYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    RS, I have never roosted…No, calling someone a lesbian and doing THAT are two very different things. And if you haven’t heard I was apalled at that. And think I first heard about it was from your blog. I didn’t know about highlighting under a pic and seeing something that was not there. I had no reason at the time to move my cursor there. I did comment at your blog that I thought it was very childish of the post by sir from his day at court. Did I get nasty about it-yes, I did. That is the feel and personality I got from your blog. From the camera in the courtroom, he looked like an older dude and thought it was quite pathetic to post things about someone’s B.O. like a 3rd grader. I still think it was low thing to do. However, I think posting the name of someone like that on the sly was a crappy thing to do. Words, out in the open would have been better. An eye for an eye. NOT a leg for an eye. AND, incidentally, I was even more apalled when bloggers here pointed out how, by googling sirs name, that pic and title came up. Had I known that PRIOR to coming to your blog, I certainly would not have approached it at all!! NO, do not agree with it. But I will apologize to you for coming on strong and rotten at your blog, without knowing that other fact.

  557. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    hey! I just watched his comments change from 172 to 156. just in a flash. so hes still deleting.

  558. judypc said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    If this MD dialogue continues I see this blog closing its doors.
    I can not believe Mister Sheaffer wants to be involved in this backyard skirmish, nor do I think Craig wants to be the playground monitor.

    Those of you that value this blog and want to continue to have this resource available to you, may want to tidy up the house a bit.

  559. Nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    I think this blog is about to short circuit with all the traffic. I posted twice. Sorry. BPE, didn’t think of that!

  560. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    for the record it’s all pretty much documented. he is just proving what a fool he is.

  561. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    BigPinkElephants said, on April 25, 2010 at 6:32 pm
    This is like watching the special Olympics…even if you win, you’re still retarded!

    ———————————————————————–

    You’re bad–lol–but now he’s on the “I’m going to report everyone & sue the living crap out of you bandwagon.” It’s like clockwork, remember when he reported Bill’s blog and all of it’s bloggers to “The FBI” last year for stealing that damn creepy half a bald headed avatar he’s so fond of?

    Anyone hear from the ‘authorities’ yet? He can post a slanderous, malicious piece with photo & story of a registered sex offender & put someone’s innocent name under it, but THAT’S OK.

    He can call Craig a sexual deviant BUT THAT’S OK. Just don’t mess with that freakin creepy avator with the damn straw covering to top of his damn head or he’ll call the FBI!

    Call all women PMS raging bit**es, rabid mongrels, whor**, out people’s private emaals, call them skan**, pig vomit inducing slime..BUT THAT’S OK.

    Now he’s on Nor’s & Tulpjes as* again & I have no idea why cause the lady seldom posts anywhere & it seems her critism of erectile dysfuntional bob is no worse than aanyone else’s

    He wanted to insert himself in the case then hey, just like the other fame who** monger Joy Wray you put yourself in the middle of this case where everyone knows you have no business being, you’re going to get smacked down—because people aren’t stupid & we know a media whore who’s fuc**** up this case more than it already is when we see one.

    IMO

  562. ZS said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Criag might allow us to discuss him here because he has inserted himself squarely in the middle of this case. It’s where he wants to be so with that attention comes the scrutiny.

  563. BigPinkElephants said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    I’m inclined to agree with judypc. This has gotten way out of hand.

    It reeks of kindergarten level insults.

  564. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Woa, woa, woe, Sir. That was YOUR picture? Like I said above, I DID NOT KNOW about the unseen name until I read about it at RS site or wherever and then went and did it. And as I stated above, I was appalled…

  565. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    i do believe he is referred to in the subject post. I feel we are on topic. when the boss comes in and tells us to stop I will stop. no problem with that.

  566. BigPinkElephants said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    The way I understood it, the picture was not of sir, but sir’s name was under it in white text and the only way it could be seen was to highlight it. Who would have thought about highlighting it in the first place is my question? Was it discovered by accident?

  567. LindaNeYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    That above comment was meant towards SS and her mentioning an article that was written for an article showing her real name, not a blogger outing someone’s personal info.

  568. infamous said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    I trust WFTV moderator Craig & he has my email addy from past email exchanges. Does anyone here trust YKW with their email address, anything you want private, cause the minute he gets mad, he’ll turn on you like a snake & expose it.

    Now he’s saying someone exposed his info & he’s taking legal action, ha, ha, ha. If that’s not the unmitigated gaul of pot calling kettle black what is. He outed Bees Knees name, it’s private–how come that’s OK???

    I hope everyone he’s ever wronged & exposed their sh** has saved it including accusing someone of being a registered sexual offender. It might come in handy if this retard is foolish enough to talk about lawsuits.

  569. CB said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    He has now deleted all his comments but has left most of SS, lol

  570. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    How many times does it need to be said to leave the moderating to Craig?
    I am so tired of posters telling other posters what can be discussed and how.
    Thanks :D

  571. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Oh, I misunderstood sir. And that was stupid coz I saw him on camera in the courtroom…I don’t remember a pic and post, but it could have went up and been deleted. I was unaware. Again, not cool. Was it on the blog or somewhere else?

  572. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    What the heck is YKW?

  573. infamous said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    That was the whole purpose of that registered sex offender blog, to defame a guy that he got pissed off at for saying YKW has body odor.

    -Let’s see– you, an innocent law abiding citizen say I have a problem with personal hygiene.

    -To retaliate I post a mortifyingly gross photo of a hideous registered sexual offender & under it accuse you of putting you hand down a 6 yr old child’s pants.

    Yep, that’s sounds like getting even!!

    A water pistol to a gun fight, illegal & deplorable.

  574. infamous said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    LFNY, you’ll never change for you & whoever else is making light of the fact the innocent person’s name “was just highlighted in white” let’s see him do it to you, your husband, you son & see how much you’s like the stigma of RSO attached to your family’s innocent name, even if “it’s just highlightes” freakin unbelievable.

  575. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Well, fakename, Ina does dedicate a lot of her blog to MD. Check out the, something like ‘what you think about blogs…” a wink wink to talk about the one and only blog owner she wanted to discuss.

    Bees, like you she never did anything to me, BUT, yes at first it was why the heck can’t she let MD go, but then she just annoyed me with the insincerity (good take) and the anti-american/anti-Florida laws. I guess yo have to read the blog to see what I mean regarding that……

    BigPink-Yeah, I would have never thought of highlighting either. And I wonder too, HOW was it discovered. I honestly did not believe it til I tried it

  576. LMAO said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    LNY- the moral of the story is, when someone googles his name, it will pull up that his name now has sex offender associated with it.

  577. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Infamous-did you actually read what I said??? LOL! NO it is not right. NO is is appalling.

  578. infamous said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    I like Ina way better then him & McTavish.They did a really low down trashy thing to Ina & TB at McTavish’s place. Rotten bash blog, SS/McTavish has an unhealthy fixation with large, soiled panties. Of course the piece of filth aimed at slandering Ina & Thinker is now deleted. She said IT WAS A RESEARCH PIECE, ha, ha, yeah right.

  579. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Yeah Linda, you said it was “payback” what was done to sir…

    Maybe you miss being at your old roost to view things the way you do..

    I didn’t catch this at first.

    You know what, RS, you would remember better than me…And I was absolutely wrong, in light of learning that googling his name brought that post up. I was wrong and do apologize for that “payback” remark. I am just as childish. Hindsight is 20/20. Was it first just the Sirjeff then the whole name. I can’t remember.

  580. marion said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:50 am

    I have been trying really really hard not to be snarky, but has anyone noticed how he has airbrushed his teeth on his blog site. Damn!

    ________________________

    Kind of snarky, but funny. I read he looks like a snaggle tooth in the Orlando Sentinel photo, guess they forgot to airbrush.

  581. BB said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    LMAO, Where can I draw up the name ? and find sex offender under it. I missed it.

  582. BEES KNEES said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    OH-OH!!! have you all seen this?!?

    http://inatheheadlesschicken.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/ahum-mr-md/

  583. marion said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Nooo it wasn’t sir’s picture, that hideous man was a RSO, but he posted the innocent person sir’s resl name under it–get it now!!

  584. marion said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Bees Knees, I saw it ugh, if anyone posts there they are truly out of their minds. He will use your info & run with it. Ignore, ignore, ignore!! Poor Ina, he bashes her cause she lives in Sweden & can’t easily do anything legally to stop the pece of trash MD.

  585. marion said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    But since he included Craig the moderators name in there, maybe someone should take a snapshot of it & email it to Craig. He’s slandering an employee of WFTV with foul language included.

  586. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    OMG, Bees, I just put my curosr over that and laughed out loud!!! Dare I go on?

    OK, I am done with this MD talk. Don’t hate him or anyone else. Except Casey for killing her daughter. I’ve said my piece(s) and have apologized for speaking on RS blog without knowing all the facts.

    Friday’s court hearing should be interesting. BTW, looks like Cheney has given advice to the OLD guard (defense team). Notice how they were not on any morning or evening shows last week after submitting that motion and Judge S stepping down??!! So unlike Baez. Wonder if the defense team will do their usual after court chit chat with all the TV stations….

  587. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Yes, Marion, I got it now. You are a day late and a dollar short. Thank you for being so nice about it.

  588. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    That officially seals MD’s fate in Orlando; he is branded into the Cindy and George and Joy Club and anyone who had any doubts of his vicious reactive temperament and instability doubts no more.
    Buh Bye Marinade Cronkite.
    NO MORE ORBBIES FOR YOU! *said with Soup Nazi voice

  589. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    he is blaming Ina for all of this. He is a 2 bit looser.

  590. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    OMG, Bees, I dared to go there….OMG, OMG. That is all there is to say. I do not think I have seen that word written so many times, in a few short paragraphs. “Diary of a Mad Blog Woman”.

  591. BB said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Good Lord Bees, where did you get that????? I don’t see it on MD blog.
    Is that her wrote it or him?

  592. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    he is a pervert, not a man

  593. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    he wrote it. his name is on the picture

  594. LindaNewYork said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Uh-oh. Omg again. It is late and did not catch on. That is not Ina’s blog. Oh my….Time to go to bed.

  595. YNWmoron said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    I emailed the snapshot to WFTV, he’s slandering the moderator of this website now..POS.

  596. YNWmoron said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    I don’t always agree with Ina, but first SS/McTavish’s trash piece on Ina & TB now this by YKY with a work I’ve never read on the internet before..pure filth and included is him ragging on Craig.

  597. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    self destructing..

  598. BB said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Will somebody give Ina and MD a paddle so they can get to each other. It sounds like they got a love fire going on and they need to put it out before the heat dries up the sea.
    Could it is all be a plot of make believe for reader excitement. lol I hope!

  599. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    make note of the page source. MD all over it

  600. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    BB. Ina didn’t write that.

  601. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    marion said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    BigPinkElephants said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:22 pm
    This blog smells like an egg fart.

    —————————–

    Maybe it’s your upper lip.
    ——————

    marion, by all posts of the day, you get the Orbbies award for the funniest post of the day. Congratulations and keep em coming.

  602. avatars said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Poor Ina, ED Bob picks on only women who live in far away countries cause he’s cowardly scum!! A man would kiss his sorry ass.

  603. avatars said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    He’s trying to get Craig fired & shut this blog down cause he’s so jealous of Bill…imo.

  604. tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Craig will you please remove my email addy….
    Thank you.

  605. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    I would bet bigpinkelephant is none other than dave neck-el.

    Where is he making comments about Craig? I looked at the site, and saw a lot of filth and psychotic babbling, but didn’t see anything about Craig.

  606. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Craig will you please remove my email addy….
    Thank you.
    ————

    tulpjes, not to worry. Craig will never reveal you email address to anyone unless you request him to do so. I am not sure why you would want to do that. No one on this blog or any other can see your email address except for the owner/moderator of a specific blog. You can simply get a new email address and continue posting where ever you wish. You will go into moderation until it is approved and then you may continue to post. You have been maligned by the anointed one but you should have no fear of retribution by anyone. Keep your head up and make your feelings known. You are on safe ground here I am sure.

  607. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Snoopysleuth linked the headless chicken blog to MD’s thus giving tacit approval as regardless of her phony OMG.
    The comments written by MD truly show the man’s vulgarity.
    I wonder if SS will feel comfortable posting there, she so opposes rooting in garbage.

  608. Yvette said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    You all I hate the man as much as the next person but if this site gets shut down, or they close the comment section then Mr. ED Bob will have gotten exactly what he wants.

  609. hesgross said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    man boobs must be really pissed, so attack a defenseless woman who lives in sweden, yeah that’ll show’em all. What a cowardly, spineless, talentless vile hack you are.

  610. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    this blog has done nothing wrong.

  611. hesgross said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Where is he making comments about Craig? I looked at the site, and saw a lot of filth and psychotic babbling, but didn’t see anything about Craig.
    ———————————————————————–
    Right here it’s the 2nd sentence I think. Imo he hates Craig:

    “Fortunatley Craig loves me at the BillS blog and I get away with more murder than Casey. LOLOLOL. Get it? Murder?”

  612. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Big pink elephants is so sick of all this talk, he went over and posted on that filthy site, that is why I think he is MD.

    Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 8:30 pm
    That officially seals MD’s fate in Orlando; he is branded into the Cindy and George and Joy Club and anyone who had any doubts of his vicious reactive temperament and instability doubts no more.
    Buh Bye Marinade Cronkite.
    NO MORE ORBBIES FOR YOU! *said with Soup Nazi voice

    YES! YES!

  613. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Yvette, you might like to read the comments at the Sentinel for comparison.

  614. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    I completely trust with my email address & have emailed him in the past.

  615. tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    I say:

    ZS @ 5:37 copied and pasted a posting from Marinada Dave and it has my email addy on it…….

    I’m not asking Craig to delete my email addy, I’m asking him to delete it from the post.

  616. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    I’ve emailed Craig before & completely trust him with my email address.

  617. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    He has deleted his own comment that he would run off and make a new blog per L’s request and Snoopy is now wondering who could have authored the chicken blog.
    ….TWILIGHT ZONE….

  618. I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Knechel has lost his grip. The IP address for the headless chicken site is none other than a proxy IP of Mr Knechel. He thinks that using a proxy IP makes him immune from being detected. He unfortunately emailed the wrong person who knows his true IP address and now has been traced to his proxy. His bread crumbs are falling through the cracks. He is not as Internet Savvy as he lets on to be. Dave, if you haven’t heard this before, I will say it again. Mess with the Bull, you get the horn. Cease and desist before you dig a deeper hole that you can crawl out of. I am betting that tomorrow will not be a good day for you on the Net.

  619. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Can I ask why YKW has it in for you tulpjes? I don’t get it, he picks on ppl that seem nice. Ina though I don’t agree with her lots of times isn’t that bad & I don’t see you even comment that much anywhere??

  620. americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    I Say said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:57 pm
    Knechel has lost his grip. The IP address for the headless chicken site is none other than a proxy IP of Mr Knechel. He thinks that using a proxy IP makes him immune from being detected.
    ———————

    I know it’s him, but do you know for sure about the IP I hope so cause I already emailed it to a few sources & told them I’m pretty sure it’s him.

  621. C said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    right click on the top picture and click image or page source and you will see Mr MD.

    <titleAhum, Mr MD « Any co** will do

  622. frankie said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Hi everyone! Just a quick point of clarification for Susan. I am NOT Frankie that posts over there….I am frankie that posts over here. Just to make sure everyone knows there are two!

    I do have an observation however…..there are bloggers (you know who you are) here that are trying desperately to defend the indefensible…namely casey. If they cannot do so by reason, which they cannot because their silliness gets KO’d every time with reason, why no disrupt the blog with a flame war? Seems like a viable alternative to me.

    Also, if you truly think SirJef was maligned, and he indeed was, why continue to post a link to the picture that was used? That only maligns him more!

    Now…Ina: As to your theories….I would be as apt to believe that little green men from Mars beamed down and murdered Caylee as to believe that errant hair proves or even casts any doubt as to casey’s guilt. Although you have just blatantly ignored all other efforts to make you understand, I will try once more. IT WAS A SITE WHERE MANY PEOPLE THREW OUT THEIR GARBAGE. casey TOOK THE GARBAGE FROM TONY’S APARTMENT, MIXED IT IN WITH CAYLEE’S REMAINS AND DUMPED THEM ALL TOGETHER AT THIS SITE! It is not beyond reason to think that hair could have belonged to any number of people in Orlando, but it is beyond any reason to hold that up as proof of casey’s innocence or an indication that the FBI, CIA or the little green men from Mars mishandled the evidence. The only thing that I find relevant in this silly hair is that it does show how thoroughly LE was in investigating this horrendous murder. Sorry to burst your bubble, but my vote is still guilty.

  623. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Knock Knock Frankie, you missed this post and Snoopysleuth is playing you:
    Marinade Dave // April 25, 2010 at 7:29 pmOh, Laura, a new blog for her? Coming right up and starring slur jiffy ate

  624. aquamarine said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    He’s trying to compete with baldaintbeautiful. But what he forgot is, 100′s of people HATE HIM, not INA..lol.

  625. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Marmalade Frankie, not chocolate lab frankie.

  626. Yvette said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    Yvette, you might like to read the comments at the Sentinel for comparison.

    _______________________

    Really, because I’ve been avoiding that article, it’s supposed to be a puff piece & that’ll piss me off. I’m glad the comments weren’t favorable of MD. But I heard lots of the comments were deleted, if so that’ll make me mad too.

    I’d just hate for YKW & McTavish to get their way & have this blog ruined & shut down cause of them. We should be able to discuss the idiot since he insterted himslef & is unfortunely part of this messy case, but if we go too crazy I’m afraid they’ll close the comment section & Dave would gloat.

  627. sirjef8 said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    BigPinkElephants said, on April 25, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    The way I understood it, the picture was not of sir, but sir’s name was under it in white text and the only way it could be seen was to highlight it. Who would have thought about highlighting it in the first place is my question? Was it discovered by accident?

    BPE – - the first picture MD posted on his blog of the Child Molester /Sex Offender- – had my name under it – - full name to include my “handle” on the blog – for all the world to see – then he changed that to “white text” -so one had to move the cursor over it to see the name – - -he removed all that from his blog – pulled a pic from my facebook – [ btw - - a pic with my son's arm around me at Father's day ]- and continued his slander and lies about me – - I have it all saved in a special file.

  628. Caylee is the winner said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Regarding the subject of the blogger and Judge Strickland, Bill Sheaffer said to “Let It Be.” But you old hens with all your fake names just can’t let it go, can you?! Your pseudo-intellectual comments with the big words are actually quite comical and are the funniest things in media since Flora Hollars went on TV.
    Gaining Judge Perry is the BEST thing that could have happened to secure justice for Caylee. Strickland is an outstanding jurist but would’ve let this trial stretch for years, he wasn’t going to hold them to a May 2011 start date if they wanted more time. Yayyyy for Caylee!

  629. Along for the Ride said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Yvette, We already know this blogger is really quite damaging to the trial. Since he deletes his outbursts, its useful they are being chronicalled here IMO.
    This is not a holy shrine. We don’t have to discuss forensics 24/7.
    The trial might be 2 years away; there is plenty of time for those discussions.
    This is a blip on the radar (I hope) but at the moment it IS the current news.
    I really wish commenters would just quit playing MOM.
    If they want to post about a different subject, they are absolutely free to do so; no one is stopping anyone from posting their thoughts. :)

  630. LMAO said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Yes, insanely jealous of BAB. He’s seething.

  631. tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:59 pm Can I ask why YKW has it in for you tulpjes? I don’t get it, he picks on ppl that seem nice

    —————————-

    I disagreed with him what he wrote on his blog.

    He wrote one time that Casey was “sobbing” when he was in court with her back to him, because he was sitting behind her.
    I told him she was not.

    He then wrote he never wrote she was sobbing….

    I then quoted his own post, he did write she was sobbing…

    He later deleted that….

    More stuff like that, I corrected him, and he just was furious that I corrected him.

    One time he gave me a wrong link to look something up.
    I told him it was the wrong link.
    He did sent me an email and acknowledge it was the wrong link, however at the same time he demanded from me I had to apologize on his blog because his “reputation” was as stake.

    Here’s a little from his email to me:

    From: This sender is DomainKeys verified”Dave Knechel” Add sender to ContactsTo: “noor xxxx” Hi, Noor -

    I am sorry I gave you an incorrect link last night on my Marinade Dave blog. I am now providing the correct one. Forgive my error.

    “I have a couple of requests. I want you to publicly debunk the following linked PDF file provided by WFTV. Please be advised that you must debunk WFTV and OCSO as you have chosen to do to me. You may decide to further discredit me instead and ignore the OCSO transcript, but I will take necessary steps if you continue to do so”.

    He’s just a bully.

  632. Sarah said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    You all need to get a life. My gawd! The nastiness of it all. Can one not debate the issue at hand without going off on a temper tantrum about another blog or blogger? Pleeeeeezzzz!! Caylee was MURDERED. Premeditated and calculated!! Doesn’t SHE deserve your attention and thoughts and not this other BS that is spewed??? Stick to the facts. DNA. Smell in the trunk. The “mom” didn’t report her missing for 30 Days!! The mom partied. Slept with the new boyfriend. Stole money from her “bf”. Duct tape. Heart sticker, (which we have all seen that Casey loves hearts for some odd reason). Running out of gas and blowing tires. Not telling her fiance’ that he was NOT the father of Caylee. Instead, told him that he was. Then declines the offer of marriage. The fights between her and her mother. Why did Lee and George leave the house around the same time? Why would Cindy; who wants perfection; just “brush” off the fact that Casey stole money? (That’s according to Cindy’s later interviews. funny how she was outraged before this all came about. Cindy denies that she ever became upset or angry with Casey. (We all KNOW that’s not true just by the mere fact that Cindy has displayed anger in the open; (in front of the media etc….). MD, Snoopslueth, Ricahrd Hornsby…etc….all of you guys. You do an awesome job keeping us informed and allowing us to express our opinions.

  633. tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    I love barnyard animals

  634. tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:53 pm I love barnyard animals

    Can someone check this persons IP #.
    I did not post this.

    SS. get some sleep please.

  635. Karen said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    CMA Blog–Video

    Media Whore Dave At His Best Lmfao

    How articulate you are!! Watch how Dave doesnt answer the question, Did you have lunch with the judge ?

    http://thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/

  636. BigPinkElephants said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    LMFAO@ the fact that you think I’m MD, nom…that’s hilarious! You won’t ever figure me out, so don’t try. And remember what Craig’s rule is, he doesn’t care what’s said about MD, but none of that who’s who game on this blog. :)

  637. Karen said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    That website Dave made about Ina with that awful C word has already been tracked back to his IP. Also at the bottom of the page it says Chris Pearson designed it or something, and it says the same thing at MD’s sooo, it was def him, the piece of trash.

  638. Karen said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    ss/Mctavish said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    I love barnyard animals
    _________________

    We know you do, we know…

  639. BigPinkElephants said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    I own a WordPress blog as well…I believe the page designs on them can be made by the same person, so I wouldn’t go on that alone. From what I understood, the IP didn’t trace back to MD, but was speculated that it was him using a proxy. How anyone would know this information, I don’t know, but hacking is illegal. ;)

  640. nom de plume said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Sarah – with all due respect, we have been discussing Casey and her trunk and all the evidence and what she eats in jail, etc, etc, ad nauseum, for two full years now. If we want to take a break and talk about something that concerns us greatly, we are allowed. If you don’t like it, fine. We are not here for your approval or any of the Dave lovers. I hear they are not talking about MD at his site, why don’t you check it out? I am not going to apologize for not living up to your expectations. Or, you could go to Dave’s new site. Snoopy posted the link on his blog.

    Pink Elephant – you flatter yourself. I don’t care who you are. I forgot about it as soon as I typed it.

  641. karen said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    SS, all due respect, what is your point? It is blatantly obvious that much has been deleted, from his blog, in particular, Department of Perversion, it is also blatantly obvious that in addressing sirjeff, you again are crying foul for yourself and Dave. Not one little I’m sorry for what was done to HIM by Dave, and condoned by the twelve or so of you there.

    I would say the highlighted remarks are nothing in comparassion to some that have escaped the lips of MD and yourself.Yet you seem to think they are so disparaging that you had to report it, and save it, and cry about it. Some sense of fairness and equality you both have. Not to mention your disgusting post about Ina and Tinkerbelle, which has also disappeared. Sometimes ye reaps what ye sows.

    ____________________

  642. OTT said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    Sirjef8. With all respect, there is a lot said by commenters that only read about what MD is to have posted about you, there is also occasionally reference to what you wrote about him. Will you be willing to explain what you wrote about MD and why you felt the need to do it. Why would a blog have anything to do with legally labeling you as a child molester, Seriously, i don’t know, did a newspaper or OS carry something about it? Are you labeled a child molester somewhere more publicly than on his blog. Just asking because you mention a picture and your son.

  643. karen said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Amazed said, on April 25, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    SS, all due respect, what is your point? It is blatantly obvious that much has been deleted, from his blog, in particular, Department of Perversion, it is also blatantly obvious that in addressing sirjeff, you again are crying foul for yourself and Dave. Not one little I’m sorry for what was done to HIM by Dave, and condoned by the twelve or so of you there.

    I would say the highlighted remarks are nothing in comparassion to some that have escaped the lips of MD and yourself.Yet you seem to think they are so disparaging that you had to report it, and save it, and cry about it. Some sense of fairness and equality you both have. Not to mention your disgusting post about Ina and Tinkerbelle, which has also disappeared. Sometimes ye reaps what ye sows.

    ____________________

    Amen

  644. karen said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    It’s craig.mazer@wftv.com

    don’t forget the (.)

  645. wtf said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    http://thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/

    3rd video down – MD meeting with Judge at bench lasted less than 5 seconds. Shows when bailiff approaches him to when he is leaving court room. Whole video 1:38

    MD is outed as a liar once again.

  646. karen said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Craig encourages emails if there are problems.

    craig.mazer@wftv.com

  647. CB said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:47 pm

  648. CB said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    part 2

  649. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    “she b*tches about him all day everyday and then comments on his blog, seems a little 2 faced. The sad part is I bet she would welcome back his friendship in a heartbeat if he would give her the time of day.” lol that was not me, that must have been a convincing fake comment. His or SS’s. Be sure I don’t comment there. If they can do this imitation, I also know who put the fake comment on BAB in which I supposedly asked for someone to kill him for me. Yuck, now I think that goes too far! I read that he says ThinkerBelle and me are lesbians. And he says he thinks I want sex with him. Conclusion: he thinks he is a woman. My husband btw and me have a network, he knows all my emails and I know his. ?

  650. stormy said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Liar, liar—ewww, the looks match the personality, ugly with bad teeth & from what I hear bad personal hygiene.

    So Judge Strickland got kicked out because this clown lied about having lunch & about phone calls made to him by J Strickland.

    IMO if he wouldn’t have bragged & lied for months, that 1 meeting wouldn’t have been enough to get defense to file motio.

    Oh, lets not forget he let the devil into his living room, the defense PI for an interview. An interview of what!! Still can’t comprehend anyone that stupid, unless you want publicity at the cost of justice for a murdered baby.

  651. Ina said, on April 25, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    @frankie: If that hair has no meaning, why was it checked by the FBI in the first place??

  652. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:00 am

    BPE: didn’t trace back to MD, but was speculated that it was him using a proxy. How anyone would know this information, I don’t know, but hacking is illegal.

    Read back in the thread where MD is quoted from his own blog announcing his intention to create a blog about Ina and other women.
    Within an hour or so, the headless chicken blog publishes.
    Go ahead, lets hear your explanation for that. :)

  653. nom de plume said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Frankie // April 26, 2010 at 12:50 am

    Lucy, you got some splaining to do. It has been implied that that new post by the headless chicken was not written by Ina. That disgusting post has now disappeared. What’s going on. If it was meant to be a joke, I fail to see the humor in it.

  654. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:03 am

    I think I was honoured with a whole site about me? It has been taken of the net. I will never know how much he lioves me :) (sarcasm)

  655. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:06 am

    What was on it? (I am a curious person. Perhaps I better not know lol)

  656. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:11 am

    its still there Ina, just password locked.
    but you can see it still here: http://www.backtype.com/connect/inatheheadlesschicken.wordpress.com
    i’m sure there a few screen captures too ;)

  657. nom de plume said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Ina, I am sure someone has a screen shot they will share with you, I bet Tulpjes does. It was fillthy, vulgar, vile, disgusting and it maligned several people, not just you. Craig on this site, SirJef, JFC site, thinkerbelle; mainly the people he thinks “done him the wrongest”.
    I think you would find it amusing, not sure what he hoped to accomplish, all he did was reinforce what a disturbed individual he is.

  658. CB said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:16 am

    Protected Blog › Login
    What’s good for the Rooster is good for the Chicken. This blog is protected, to view it you must log in. Username. Password. Remember Me …
    inatheheadlesschicken.wordpress.com/ – Cached

  659. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:18 am

    @Linda, I am not anti America, I find the law that approves of the dp very harsh, that is all. There is a website with dumb laws from all around the world, I once published the Florida ones. One day this blog here will be about law again. Surely.

  660. Sarah said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Storms here tonight. (That’s why I’m up so late.) As you all can see; I never blog here. Why the attack on MD? Bottom line……Casey murdered her innocent, precious child and her parents tried to cover it up. What say you? (Try and leave out any comments about MD, BS, or RH and KB…..I don’t care. At this point….I would like to know how strong the EVIDENCE is against CASEY and HER PARENTS. Sorry I asked about the attack on MD. PLEASE DON’T ANSWER THAT. I think the, “The Hinky Meter” explains the scientific evidence quite well. (I don’t know what yawls obsession with MD is; and I DON’T want to know!) STAY WITH THE CASE. BE PROFESSIONAL! I never blog; but I like some of the bloggers input about the info on this case. Sincerely: Sunshine Sarah

  661. the JBmission said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Well, well. Why doesn’t he answer the question? Did he have lunch with Judge Strickland?
    On my site he admitted it was a “joke”. I’m not buying it. He lied to me for a reason and the reason was too impress a new comer to his site. I’m now accused of being stupid because I half way believed him but why wouldn’t I when he bragged all over his site about his relationship with Judge Strickland. OMG, there was a poem written about him!!
    Anyway, I think that it was his comment (LIE) to me that got the defense to go after him. Because he wasn’t just lying on Judge Strickland anymore, he’s now lying on Cheney Mason, Jose Baez and the SAO.
    IMO, that’s what happened and now after watching CB’s video I’m convinced. Notice how the reporters keep asking him about “the lunch”
    Oh well, he chumped me and THE DEFENSE chumped him. PERFECT!!

  662. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:28 am

    So far I just get the part of the title I suppose. And 2 comments. I guess the rest is about that genre. The person who did that blog, must have some serious frustrations in that direction? If it was David: I am so sorry you connected sex to me. I suppose I should have realized you did, when I commented: “Deep!” on your now removed blogarticle ” The Well.” You replied: “Penetrating!” which didn’t make much sense to me at all. But now I start to get it. Sorry for you, I am married and have no desire for the treassure of your body.

  663. Sarah said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:31 am

    JB: What does any of that have to do with Caylee’s murder?

  664. CB said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:33 am

    http://inatheheadlesschicken.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/ahum-mr-md/

    put your cursor over the link to see the blog

  665. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Read for comprehension JB.
    Start with Let it Be at the top of the page.
    Or you could go to the Casey Anthony page here and read the top stories. :)

  666. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:35 am

    Sorry, was addressing Sarah.

  667. nom de plume said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Yes, Sarah Sunshine – the media is full of Casey Anthony stories each and every day. And yes, the Hinky meter is great – you could go there to get some great information.

  668. karen said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:55 am

    The design is by chris pearson same as md’s it’s him I took a smnapshot & sent it to WFTV & Craig since his name was mentioned amongst that awful filthy C word, poor Ina he’s pathetic. also someone said it’s traced back to md, though I don’t know how to do such things, nor would I try.

  669. sirjef8 said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:01 am

    For what it’s worth to life – -I think it’s time to disengage ourselves from glorifying Mr. Knechel – - – by any further comments – - – let him stew in his own Marinade sauce – - he’s doing a fine job of it by himself — Let LE – - – and the Power – of -GOD – - that is much greater than you or I – - resolve this matter – - -

  670. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:02 am

    SirJef: Amen :)

  671. nom de plume said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Well, if two of the wronged parties say it’s time, then who am I to disagree. I will not post another word UNLESS that is the topic tomorrow. If something new develops to discuss, I will go along with whatever it is- majority rules! :)

    I must say one last thing to Karen – thank you for sending that screen shot to Craig and WFTV.

    Amen and good night!

  672. karen said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:34 am

    This is at the bottom of MD’s blog & also at the bottom of the page of the headless chicked vulgar blog where he defiled Ina & Craig.I respect the opinion to drop it & I will in due time.

    (Blog at WordPress.com. Theme: Cutline by Chris Pearson.)

  673. americana said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:06 am

    insanely jealous of BAB. He’s seething.

    tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:25 pm
    americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:59 pm Can I ask why YKW has it in for you tulpjes? I don’t get it, he picks on ppl that seem nice

    —————————-

    I disagreed with him what he wrote on his blog.

    He wrote one time that Casey was “sobbing” when he

  674. americana said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:31 am

    tulpjes said, on April 25, 2010 at 10:25 pm
    americana said, on April 25, 2010 at 9:59 pm Can I ask why YKW has it in for you tulpjes? I don’t get it, he picks on ppl that seem nice

    —————————-

    I disagreed with him what he wrote on his blog.

    He wrote one time that Casey was “sobbing” when he was in court with her back to him, because he was sitting behind her.
    I told him she was not.

    He then wrote he never wrote she was sobbing….

    I then quoted his own post, he did write she was sobbing…

    He later deleted that….

    More stuff like that, I corrected him, and he just was furious that I corrected him.

    One time he gave me a wrong link to look something up.
    I told him it was the wrong link.
    He did sent me an email and acknowledge it was the wrong link, however at the same time he demanded from me I had to apologize on his blog because his “reputation” was as stake.

    Here’s a little from his email to me:

    From: This sender is DomainKeys verified”Dave Knechel” Add sender to ContactsTo: “noor xxxx” Hi, Noor -

    I am sorry I gave you an incorrect link last night on my Marinade Dave blog. I am now providing the correct one. Forgive my error.

    “I have a couple of requests. I want you to publicly debunk the following linked PDF file provided by WFTV. Please be advised that you must debunk WFTV and OCSO as you have chosen to do to me. You may decide to further discredit me instead and ignore the OCSO transcript, but I will take necessary steps if you continue to do so”.

    He’s just a bully.

    ______________________

    Thanks tulpjes, I’ve wondered who this mysterious person is that YKW attacks with a veangence. In other words you didn’t fall in line & goose step. You seem to set him off more than his usual foul tempered self..lol.

    You don’t long obnoxious comments, they’re short, to the point. And you seem like an independant woman with opinions of your own.

    So, that goes against the grain at the shit pile he runs. To fit in you must be a brain dead turnip easily lead & ready to apologize & be submissive like a scolded 5 yr old when MD or SS reprimand you…even if you did nothing wrong.

    The misogynist pig hates strong women. Oh– that email to you proves he’s batshi* crazy.

  675. americana said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:44 am

    OK tulpjes, wtf does he mean debunk WFTV and OCSO? Jeez I mean I know what debunk means but he used it in a way that makes no sense. Get rid of the files, delete the files, make copies & shred them..

    Why couldn’t he say what he means & mean what he… maybe he should shove the PDF files up his…nevermind he’s on another planet no use trying to figure it out..

    Bet you regret the day you met him as I do also. His mood swings are dangerous to those around him.

    Like I said a few bricks short of a load, paranoid & crazy as shit…imo.

  676. americana said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:48 am

    You said it best though, he’s just a bully…you’re very direct & he hates that, especially a female.

  677. craigatwftv said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:06 am

    Get me fired… Dave? Really… hmmmm that would be something. What leads anyone to post a suggestion that Dave is trying to get me fired? Just FYI, I’ve never been to his blog or read anything there… and I don’t plan to unless someone is writing something I need to talk to the TV station lawyers about : )

  678. Gramma X Six said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:06 am

    Ahhhhh Come on you guys, enuf said …..
    Why are u ruining a fantastic blog of William Sheaffer’s, go fight somewhere else..
    This is ridiculous !!!!!!

  679. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:09 am

    Gramma X Six said ———-you are so correct ….. I posted a similar comment yesterday….. seems like a lot of folks have trolled over here with the TCD mentality … of one mind of someone who has turned this tragety into a money making career ….. leave Bill’s blog alone!

  680. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:16 am

    Infamous said: It might come in handy if this retard is foolish enough to talk about lawsuits.

    That’s all it is, foolish talk, big shot talk, the man has diarrhea of the mouth!!

  681. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:18 am

    Which posters are you calling trolls, Hazaka?
    And who are you telling to ‘leave Bill’s blog alone!’ ?

  682. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:21 am

    LNY, respectfully, sometime you just have to pick a side. The second that Dave Knechel slapped a blog up on the internet, attached his real name to it and said that he would ‘cover and report on the Casey Anthony case’ he stopped being a private citizen of Orlando, Florida.

    Dave Knechel sought a public image. Dave Knechel is open to public scrutiny whether it be good, bad or indifferent. The state of that image at any particular time is dependent on nothing, I repeat nothing, but his own discourse and conduct.

    Anonymous blog commenters – and yes, that would include Ina, who I believe is a private citizen, although a well known poster, and certainly it would include, Sir, who I understand never sought to have his private information/identity made public on the internet have no role to play in HIS public reputation.

    I don’t care if a thousand posters a day come to Marinade’s site for no other purpose but to annoy him, it remains how HE chooses to engage with them or not that will dictate the consequence to HIS public image which WE then are free to scrutinize and comment upon.

    Marinade can play ‘tit for tat’ (putting it mildly) all that he wants. You are free to challenge his detractors and say, “ya but, look what so and so did to him first,” until the cows come home. The bottom line, no matter how you try to slice it or dice it is this – Dave Knechels’s public image and reputation is his, and his alone, to make or break.

  683. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:25 am

    Along for the Ride ———————— they know who they are ……..

  684. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:28 am

    Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:19 am ZS said, ——- why in heaven’s name are you “talking” to Dave on Bill’s blog?????
    ______________________________

    Excuse me, Hazaka. Why in heaven’s name are YOU talking to ME? I was not addressing you so why don’t you mind your own business? When I want your opinion I will ask you for it, OK?

    Craig is the ONLY moderator of this blog. Craig has given us the permission to discuss this case from any angle we choose. I believe he asked that we use clean language (which we do) and stay on point.

    It has been said repeatedly but here you go for those of you who need to hear it more than once. IF YOU DON’T WANT TO TAKE PART IN THE DISCUSSION – MOVE ALONG. No one is forcing you to read here, are they? No. Didn’t think so. Buh-bye!!!!!

  685. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:28 am

    Hazaka, you misunderstand me. You cannot go calling fellow posters trolls; it is against the policy of this blog.

  686. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:30 am

    It is not going to get anything done venting here. The OS site is where all comments should be directed IF one wants to see something done about it. It sadly could turn out that this horrible man will get a free pass on what he has done, is doing and will continue to do, but I am one who is hoping that there will be a bright enterprising reporter over there who will use this information that is being researched printed and delivered to them , and do the right thing in exposing the lies MD presents.

    The chicken post is atrocious, of course, you have to log in to read it. Beware! He is looking for your information.

    Keep osting at the sentinel, e-mail, call, he wants them to think it is two or three people. There are legions, it’s also interesting to see who is NOT commenting overr there anymore. Lots of his regulars. Frankie with a capitol just asked for an explanation of the chicken site. He’s imploding as we speak. Wonder what kind of week poor Stewy is going to have?

  687. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:31 am

    Knowwhoyousupport, good comment. I wonder if our focus today should be the Orlando Senrtinel and demanding a retraction for their weekend fabrication? I don’t mean leaving comments there, I mean sending our concerns directly to the editor. I’ll see if I can find a contact and I’ll post it here. BBIAB.

  688. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:33 am

    Along for the Ride ——————– are you Craig? Actually, I hadn’t been posting in a few weeks…. just reading ….and noticing the tone of this blog has deteriorated …. and turned into a blog-fest far from the original intention……. btw what is your “other” name ………..\\————————– and

    ZS said, ——– where are your manners…. a blog is an open discussion …that’s the point ….. I wonder why you are blasting Dave on Bill’s blog…. really…..

    ———————————–
    My point is made …… this started as a fabulous legal discussion…. of late … a number of BLOGGERS have appeared and have turned this into a nasty, bickering event…. so self centered….

  689. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:33 am

    Seems like we are all thinking in the same direction. He really opened a can of worms getting them to do a story on him.

  690. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:37 am

    Hazaka,

    May i suggest you settle down and try to ignore the most extreme fringe element postings…

    to recap we have a litany of people disparaged by one Marmalade and his Marmalettes who float on here….even Craig is not exempt…

    And if you look at and read this new post, it does relate to the case to discuss the aftermath…

  691. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:38 am

    So here’s the space they want us to use for sending complaints (Orlando Sentinel):

    For problems, question or comment regarding OrlandoSentinel.com:

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/about/orl-feedback-2,0,4041118.customform

  692. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:39 am

    craigsaid@7:06am

    Now THAT is the Dave Kneckle we all know!! He has the POWER!!!

  693. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:40 am

    RS ———– hi — actually, except for a few….. most seem to be of the extreme……. it is disturbing actually —- its as if there has been a “take over”…. :-)

  694. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:44 am

    @ Hazaka

    You consistently only post a remark when you want to correct one of us. You fail to recognize that this post, although titled “let it be”, is about what happened to JS. That was brought on by MD. See the connection? Now we may be off track discussing the Sentinel story, but this post is about MD in a very strong sense of the word. When more information comes out about Caylee, God rest her soul, we will discuss that information. This IS about Caylee, sadly it is about people like MD who have found a way to be noticed, now he can’t take the responsibility for his evil ignorance.

  695. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:46 am

    Hazaka, I am not Craig.
    You are also not allowed to pester users about their identities; that too is against the blog rules.
    Think about it; you come in shouting at people and accusing them of being trolls with false names?
    Craig, “please make it stop!” to quote Casey Anthony.

  696. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:51 am

    And gosh Craig has no worries…

    …..why if he is faced with termination he can bring in character witnesses, like all of us, we will have his back

    Although us witnessing for him might be viewed as bunch of blog characters who have been hauled in….LOL..

  697. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:51 am

    Listen…. I am not shouting …. not pestering about identies ….accusing anyone of anything …. stating that this appears to have turned from what it was into something not so enjoyable…. and where are these “rules” that you so state…

    Yes, I am aware that the judge stepped down due to Dave’s blog and statements…. but… it seems as if this now has turned into a venting venue against Dave —-

    And, some of the previous names are not here anymore ….. that’s why I asked …perhaps there have been name changes ….

    Seems like most now are quite hyper…….

  698. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Hazaka, have you even read the above article posted by Mr. Sheaffer? Cause if you did surely you noticed that even he was talking about that bad blogger.

    Mr. Sheaffer said–

    For those who do not know this, Mr. Knechel, under the pseudonym of Marinade Dave, regularly writes and publishes a WordPress blog about a range of topics, but primarily about missing and murdered women and children. So, a trip to the bench for a brief public exchange seems harmless enough, right?

    Now think about it. If MD was the reason for posting that piece then surely we would be allowed to discuss it. And yes, he did also say, Let It Be and I have every reason to believe that once the problem has been dealt with we WILL let it be. But as recently as last night MD created a disgusting blog page in Ina’s name. So it looks like the problem is still at it.

  699. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:54 am

    Hazaka,

    Perhaps you missed the events of the last, oh day or so……or perhaps you tripped over the content at Marmalade’s and some posted here by the Marmalettes in order to offer your perspective of just who has turned what into a venting venue……..

  700. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:54 am

    Hazaka, maybe you should scroll up and reread your last comments. :D

  701. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:54 am

    (Blog at WordPress.com. Theme: Cutline by Chris Pearson.) <—-Exactly my point…ANYONE who blogs on WP can use this theme! I wonder how many millions of blogs there are on WP? Or how many hundreds of posters on just the Caylee related blogs that might have used this theme?

  702. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:55 am

    ZS said ——- of course I did …. and he, thankfully explained why the defense had made the motion and why the judge did what he did and ….. I didn’t take it to mean that this now should be turned into a bash Dave, blog-fest … I also read the ill writtten article about the blogger ….. and found it a strange piece ….

    What strikes me a odd is when comments are made to this Dave person, here …..

  703. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Who cares who changed who’s names? This is a blog. We are well within our rights to use any name we choose as long as we are not trying to pass ourselves off as some real person.

    After everything we have seen MD do I think it would be foolish and maybe even dangerous if we did use our regular names. We’ve all seen what he does with real information. There is no way I will reveal who I am to that person. NO WAY!!!!! I’m not going to be the next headless chicken for that stooge.

  704. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:57 am

    Hazaka, get over it.

  705. craigatwftv said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:58 am

    ZS, this blog isn’t for just railing on MD. Your comments only did that. Please don’t do that anymore. Hazaka can address you if she’d like; I don’t think Dave asked you to talk to him on BILL’s blog. You can’t have it both ways.

  706. craigatwftv said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Hazaka, if you have names of users you think are a problem, share it directly with my via email: craig.mazer@wftv.com — please don’t just go on about it here.

  707. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:59 am

    ZS ———— I can appreciarte your concern…. haven’t read his blog … not interested …. did find this blog informative …but…… seems as if even Craig has mostly given up ….. times are a changing….and …. what should I get over?????

  708. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:00 am

    BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:54 am
    (Blog at WordPress.com. Theme: Cutline by Chris Pearson.) <—-Exactly my point…ANYONE who blogs on WP can use this theme! I wonder how many millions of blogs there are on WP? Or how many hundreds of posters on just the Caylee related blogs that might have used this theme?

    Simple question BPE..
    How many hundreds of posters announced online they were going to create a blog to harass Ina and other women meer minutes before such a blog was published?
    TIA for your response to this pertinent point. ;)

  709. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:01 am

    IMO, 99% of people posting crap about MD are posting under the guise of being “scared” of what he will do with the info…the real reason is cuz it gives you another 5 days to talk about him! I don’t believe for one second that any of you are actually concerned about him coming to your house and gunning you down. You people are delusional!

  710. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:01 am

    craigatwftv —- THANK YOU ….. you officially stated my points precisely!

  711. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:03 am

    Hazaka how on earth do you know why this blog was created? For all you know it might exist just for this very reason. As a place to bring attention to some very questionable and unethical and possibly illegal behaviour that takes place daily on that other blog. When was the last time you saw a discussion here about Caylee? It doesn’t happen often, only right after BS posts. And that’s about once every two months. There are plenty of other blogs you may visit if your desire is so strong to discuss the case. Right now we are addressing what has most recently happened to effect the outcome of this case and that is one Mr. Knechel. Why is that so hard for you to understand. Maybe once somebody shuts him down we won’t discuss him ever again.

  712. craigatwftv said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:04 am

    While previous policy was to avoid comments about Dave/MD, it’s okay now as long as it’s within the context of his role in the case. He is part of this case now, so discussion about his role, his interests, his effect are all fair game. Let’s keep it NICE folks, let’s stop attacking EACH OTHER or I’ll go on another BANNING BENDER! : )

  713. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:07 am

    And one more thing. Our discussions regarding MD do not in any way shape or form show disrespect to Mr. Sheaffer OR to wftv OR to Craig. In fact the ONLY time I’ve noticed any of them being disrespected was when that other blogger said many nasty things about them. we haven’t.

    Craig, thank you. As always I will follow your direction. And ONLY yours. I do not come here EVER to tell another bnlogger here what to do or how to think.

  714. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:09 am

    Craig has summed it all up for us in a nutshell, as they say.

    By MD’s own doing, ” He is part of this case now.” Period.

  715. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:09 am

    “Right now we are addressing what has most recently happened to effect the outcome of this case” <—-MD's bad teeth and body odor, nor the alleged new blog that was posted are relevant to the outcome of the case. :)

  716. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:11 am

    ……….and ONE more thing, and then I have to get to work. I think all of our efforts should likely be directed at the Orlando Sentinel today. ‘K………..I’m gone. Have a nice day (spoken in a cheery sun-shiney voice).

  717. Hazaka said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:11 am

    BigPinkElephants —————— precisely!!!

  718. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Hazaka said: “it is disturbing actually —- its as if there has been a “take over””

    Hazaka, respectfully, I think the moderator of this site has made it perfectly clear that should he feel, at anytime, that a posting, comment or comments is out-of-line or inappropriate, he would step in. I know that Craig is around because I read a post from him here, timestamped at around 7:30 am this morning.

    Discussion on this issue, which you can choose to participate in or not, has been on-going for a couple days now…interest has not waned and the comments have not been shut down. Does that reveal anything to you?

    I don’t know of any reason that you can’t discuss whatever else YOU might want to discuss, here and now.

    I believe it was Mr. Sheaffer’s wife who was publicly said to have supported Marinade in the days after judge Strickland recused himself. Does that make the comments anymore relevant for you?

    Had the true nature of Dave Knechel been allowed to ‘see the light of day’ prior to just the last few days, perhaps it would have given anyone who sought to support him pause.

  719. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:12 am

    I guess you won’t be answering my query, BPE. Surprise, surprise.

  720. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:14 am

    Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:12 am

    I guess you won’t be answering my query, BPE. Surprise, surprise.

    ******************

    You’re right, I won’t be. It has no relevance. And the best guess I could make would most likely not be correct.

    Also, I would like to add that talking about SS in no way relates to the outcome of this case either.

  721. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:20 am

    And another thing, before I go…I guess it’s ok for someone to make a page that serves no other purpose than to bash MD, but it’s not ok for someone to make a page that serves no other purpose than to bash Ina? I don’t see people bitching about the BAB blog…damned hypocrites!

  722. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:20 am

    Big pink,

    Perhaps you missed it, but sirjef joined and posted to this blog several times, only to have the Marmalette snoopy arrive here and falsely accuse him of accusing her of deleting posts on Marinade’s site….then posting content threats toward him and tuples(?) next appeared on Marmalade’s site by Marmalade himself

    Now, seriously, if anybody thinks this train wreck of DELIBERATE case intrusion is over, they are only fooling themselves….

    I predict Mr. Mason, or Mr. Baez, or both, will seek a restraining order against him and likely as well against several of his marmalettes prior to next court hearing, and I further predict the order will be granted..

  723. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:22 am

    RS, it seems as though BPE has pressing business elsewhere, far more relevant.
    So do I, so i wish you all a good day. :D

  724. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:25 am

    my apologies, I posted before I read Craig’s.

  725. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:26 am

    RS, none of that has ANY relevance whatsoever to this case. It doesn’t speak kindly of MD’s character, for certain. I think tulpjes and sirjeff are wearing their big boy pants and can take care of it all on their own. I also doubt any of this has any bearing over courtroom proceedings, as nor Mr. Bozo or the good ol boy Mason have been threatened, so why the need for a restraining order? You’re making mountains out of molehills here.

  726. BG said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Big Pink- I always considered the “bashing” type comments of MD to show his character and how he ran his mouth on his blog and called attention to the situation.

    No one was just coming out of left field say “hey, let’s pick on Dave”. He was going out of his way to make sure people knew the judge had spoken to him.

  727. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:33 am

    RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:20 am “I predict Mr. Mason, or Mr. Baez, or both, will seek a restraining order against him and likely as well against several of his marmalettes prior to next court hearing, and I further predict the order will be granted..”

    My thoughts exactly…I don’t know how it could be any other way.

    Marinade has publicly stated that he’s out to get the defense. Deleted or not, many, many people saw his blog comment about going out to buy a gun. I think, through the several hundred comments here and elsewhere over the last few days, his stability is seriously in question. Let him waltz into the court room on Friday? Why would they chance even just a disruption?

  728. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:34 am

    big pink,

    Yeah, right, legal professionals are going to ignore the potential for the implied meaning behind putting die in quotes and the prior vitriol and blaming of Mason and Baez……sure, and elephants are born pink…..

    Perhaps in your limited ability to see hypocrisy, you tripped over the bashing of me, the blog I set up for the original WFTV bloggers…in fact, I think your periphery vision is quite stilted.

  729. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:38 am

    As well as Marinade Dave posting online that he was purchasing a gun; he has also stated publicly that he ‘shoots straight from the hip’.

  730. old biddie said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Big pink – BAB site is a bashing site, it is used for people who need to vent and can’t vent on Dave’s site because Dave would delete them, defame them or attack them and use their personal information against them. Most of the things said at BAB are true.

    The piece of crap blog that Dave created is not bashing, it is impersonating another person, degrading and demoralizing several people and places, and just plain filth and lies. It is extremely childish and psychotic.

  731. BG said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Craig- When someone speaks to you in bold letters, you must obey! Lol.

  732. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:54 am

    RS, apparently you didn’t get the implied meaning of that “die” post. The way I interpreted it, he means that changing judges doesn’t mean crap, the death penalty will most likely stand. Of course leave it to you idiots to read something else into it. No matter which way you look at it, the defense really shot themselves in their collective feet!

  733. Uppity Woman said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:56 am

    RS you said, “I predict Mr. Mason, or Mr. Baez, or both, will seek a restraining order against him and likely as well against several of his marmalettes prior to next court hearing, and I further predict the order will be granted.”

    In your opinion who should we contact and request that MD not be allowed to tamper with this case any further? The courthouse? The media? The lawyers? All of the above?

  734. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Well, that post does beg the question…

    which judicial system..if a resident and citizen of Canada it seems the post makes no sense since the topic is a Florida, USA, case…

    If one only pretends to be Canadian and residing in Canada that IMO points to a deception..

    So which judicial system “has almost become a mockery”

  735. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:57 am

    old biddie said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Big pink – BAB site is a bashing site, it is used for people who need to vent and can’t vent on Dave’s site because Dave would delete them, defame them or attack them and use their personal information against them. Most of the things said at BAB are true.

    The piece of crap blog that Dave created is not bashing, it is impersonating another person, degrading and demoralizing several people and places, and just plain filth and lies. It is extremely childish and psychotic.

    *************************
    Ummm, on the flip side, the BAB blog is extremely childish and psychotic too. Talking about MD and his stench, his nads, etc…that isn’t third grade behavior? As I said before…HYPOCRITES.

  736. Uppity Woman said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:57 am

    Elephant why are you calling us idiots?

  737. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:57 am

    Of course leave it to you idiots to read something else into it. No matter which way you look at it, the defense really shot themselves in their collective feet!
    …..
    Actually, you just shot yourself in the foot by calling fellow posters idiots.
    There is no attacking commenters here. :D

  738. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:58 am

    uppity,

    I believe Mr. Mason and Mr. Baez would be the ones making inquiries about that…

    and perhaps sirjef as well, since sirjeff has attended quite a few hearings, and since the Marmalade guy has a fixation on him as well…

  739. Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:01 am

    And the ‘smell’ of MD sorry to say :D actually is relevent. (I honestly never thought i would write those words but hear me out) due to the fact that it was Sir Jeff’s simple comment on his smell that caused MD to go off the rails and create the RSO linked image.
    Ok see ya for realz..

  740. BG said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:01 am

    Big Pink- One thing I like about using the comuter is my freedom to click on whatever I want or NOT.

    Why go to Bab? No one is forcing you or MD to do that.

  741. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:06 am

    I read there so I can make an informed opinion about it. And my opinion is that site is about as childish as any of the crap MD has written about anyone else. Of course, since you’re on “this” side, and I’m, in your opinion, on “that” side, none of what I’m saying will matter to you.

    Regarding a restraining order, if sirjef were really that scared to venture into a courtroom where he knows that MD could possibly be sitting right next to him, he has the choice of NOT going. :)

  742. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:08 am

    big pink,

    You narrow ability to see hypocrisy is showing…

    Gender bashing

    Sexuality bashing

    Disparaging adjectives

    Inciting others to harass ( Bash and trash and IMO criminally harass )

    IMO all abound on the Marmalade site…

    so is it any surprise that on some sites people respond in kind, not at all….

  743. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:08 am

    The mere idea of a restraining order is laughable.

  744. Uppity Woman said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:09 am

    Thanks RS. I think I’ll drop them a line. I also complained to OS. I don’t know if it will do any good or not. I guess we’ll see. It should be clear to everyone by now that this problem with MD is not going away. He continues to behave in a very bad manner and the number of people fed up with it is growing in leaps and bounds. I know that he and SS want everyone to believe it is only a few disgruntled women making this fuss but as we all know, there are a great number of us with legitimate complaints.

    The old idiom = YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW, comes to mind. The simple irony is everything that is happening to him is a direct result of his own actions.

  745. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:09 am

    RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:08 am

    ****************************

    And the same goes on on that BAB blog…so I guess you say that two wrongs make a right? People never cease to amaze me.

  746. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:12 am

    well keep laughing, IMO Mason and/or Baez would be remiss in not asking for one…

    They are not going to hearings to sit and observe, they have a reason to be there, which does not include being subjected to one who incites others to harass their PI, who has written and published off -the-wall stuff about, in a fashion, getting even with them…

    and if what is posted on a blog in your view will not be relevant and could not result in a restraining order, you might review Strickland recusing himself over, gosh, let’s see what, oh yeah, blog content exposing a familiarity…order granted there…IMO not at all a stretch to see a restraining order request granted under the circumstances

  747. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:16 am

    bigpink,

    In addition to narrow ability to see hypocrisy, I’d add some odd habit of putting words in the mouths of others..

    I said…it is no surprise to me that some respond in like kind…NOT that 2 wrongs make a right…

  748. Uppity Woman said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Big Pink you are trying unsuccessfully to turn this around. There is no one here that tampers with people’s personal information. There is no one here who creates pornographic weblogs about a real woman. There is no one here who obsesses over bodily functions. There is no one here who creates elaborate lies to the media and and then has a public meltdown when he’s caught. As I just finished saying, you reap what you sow and MD has been reaping HARD for two years now. How long do you think it takes to repair that reaping? It’s not going away this time. You might as well brace yourself.

  749. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Along for the Ride said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:38 am

    “As well as Marinade Dave posting online that he was purchasing a gun; he has also stated publicly that he ‘shoots straight from the hip’.”

    AFTR, it seems most everything he has written in the last several days whether blog titles or comments, could be described as double entendres.

    Marinade is intending, I believe, for his words to be interrupted exactly in the way that we are – that there is the potential for danger – while at the same time, he can sit back and feign surprise at our interpretation, much as BPE did when he wrote that we are making mountains out of mole hills.

    When you play with fire, sometimes you get burnt.

  750. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Writing and publishing an “off the wall” commentary regarding the defense doesn’t justify a restraining order, and the “harassment” of the PI wouldn’t justify the defense filing a restraining order, but yes, possibly the PI himself could. MD has subjected himself to a LOT of scrutiny, that is a fact, but I don’t really see legal action being taken. Has he actually threatened anyone with physical violence? Has he physically stalked anyone? Internet stalking and harassment laws are very new and not easily interpreted. I actually had a man threaten me online and made very disparaging comments about my children and I was unable to do a thing about it because of how the laws are written.

  751. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:25 am

    04/23/2010 Notice of Unavailability
    from Jose Baez

    Is Baez trying to get out of the hearing?????

  752. Old Biddie said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Big Pink – You do have a point about the BAB at times is childish and psychotic, but what they say, for the most part, IS TRUE. Dave lies. And BAB limits their targets to two people, Dave opens fire at anyone in range. BAB’s objective is to vent, Dave’s objective is to destroy.

    I find it very interesting that all who think Casey is guilty are very much Anti defense, but would rather take the side of the defense against Dave. Doesn’t that tell you sometihing?

  753. Uppity Woman said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Exactly, knowwhoyousupport! He has only himself to blame. He lied, insulted and created some porn all to get attention. All to increase his blog hits. Unfortunatley when you roll the dice in that way you can’t control the outcome. He got attention alright, just not the kind he wanted. Remind you of anyone else?

  754. Uppity Woman said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Biddie, that’s perfect! That’s the truth! Very well said. “BAB’s objective is to vent, Dave’s objective is to destroy.”

  755. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:33 am

    I’m lost on this “created porn”. I saw the website in question. Might have been sexual in nature, but to call it porn is ludicrous. Reminds me of the much talked about donkey video, which wasn’t anything close to porn, but some people made mountains out of molehills on that one too.

  756. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:33 am

    snoopysleuth // April 24, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Hi Dave et al…. another great post.

    Our judical system has almost become a mockery. snipped
    —————–

    How could it not be about you? I simply responded to what you posted at the MD site. Maybe you had MD delete your post over there but it is in backtype and us.loadedweb.com.
    You are the one who said “Our judical system, not I. Does that mean you are American or are you truly Canadian. I am just curious which side of the Northern border you live on. My only point.

    Craig, you may certainly delete the whole post or the bolded part that wasn’t so nice of me. My point has been made. I was just alluding to the fact that many have always thought SS is the alter ego of Marinade Dave. Or are you just demanding that Craig use your famous Swiffer Duster here like you do on your blog. By your posts yesterday and today you have inserted yourself into this conversation. I say fair game. I guess Craig will let me know about that.

  757. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:56 am

    BPE, you have a really liberal mind set obviously, that donkey movie WAS porn, the camera cut off just as the donkey mounted the man with his pants down. What do you not see that we all saw? Call it ‘soft porn” if that makes you fell better about it.

    Well SS has deserted the ship, at least as SS. I suppose knowing that everyone who can is doing snap shots and c&p the disgusting new blog has her realizing that the ship has become the Titanic. The man has lost his mind.

  758. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:57 am

    @feel

  759. whoszoomingwho said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:05 am

    Beast said, on April 22, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    A lot of advice has not been heeded, for example the title of this article. But for the entire day guess what the topic has been, I had hoped it had changed by now but apparently
    not. sigh

    BigPinkElephants said,

    on April 26, 2010 at 8:20 am
    And another thing, before I go…I guess it’s ok for someone to make a page that serves no other purpose than to bash MD, but it’s not ok for someone to make a page that serves no other purpose than to bash Ina? I don’t see people bitching about the BAB blog…damned hypocrites!

    ———————-

    Beast said, BipinkElephAnTS said – hmmmmm

  760. Beast said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:17 am

    whoszoomingwho, why are you bringing up something I said 4 days ago? And ya even now nothing has changed. Im sick of hearing about MD whether or not you have points. Im interested in the caylee case. I believe the MD issue is separate and Im sick of it. And why include mt name with the elephant saying hmm? I never said that. Dont try and drag my name into anything. Ive been staying out of it until something worth replying to comes up.

  761. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:33 am

    I believe the conotation was that a BPE is a beast, but is a beast the BPE? Either way makes no difference to me, lots of people use two or more names, SS for one.

    SS has now password protected her site, and only her regulars can get in. So I guess the five or six of them will get together to mull things over, which is as it should be anyhow, it was never a blog, it was always a club. Now it is a private club.

  762. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:41 am

    BPE said: “Has he actually threatened anyone with physical violence? Has he physically stalked anyone? ”

    Was his opinion really that Casey should ‘die’ when he wrote the blog (one of which) the defense used to have a judge replaced?…..

  763. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Old Biddie said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Excellent post, ya old biddie!!!! :)

  764. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:51 am

    BPE said: LMAO…”I’m NOT Beast, if that’s what you were implying.”

    Actually, I’m more inclined to lean towards it being Marinade. Anyhoo, doesn’t matter one way or the other…

  765. BigPinkElephants said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:52 am

    If it doesn’t matter, then why venture any guesses?

  766. Beast said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:54 am

    knowwhoyousupport , for petes sake give it up and leave me out of your BS. Click on my name and then repeat your stupid comment.

  767. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:56 am

    leave me out of your BS…didn’t know I had counted you in.

  768. Beast said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:58 am

    knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:51 am

    BPE said: LMAO…”I’m NOT Beast, if that’s what you were implying.”

    Actually, I’m more inclined to lean towards it being Marinade

    You are not saying that you think I am MD? Sure looks that way.

  769. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:02 am

    KWYS

    We all should not get into it with BPE OR Beast. I did click on Beasts name the other day out of curiosity, and to be honest I liked all tht I read about him, his family etc. What I did not like was his comments last week at MD site, but that really is not my business . I think he has seen through the facade, but on the off chance that he hasn’t, I am not going to mix it up with anyone coming in to defend in even a miniscule way MD. It is how they disrupt this blog and turn the commenters here against each other. Not going to bite the apple.

  770. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Beast, your grasp of comprehension is underwhelming. Read it again. Maybe 3x if you have to.

    You think “this” is all nonsense, but “the above” is what you want to go on about?

  771. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Beast, whoszoomingwho said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:05 am:

    “Beast said, BipinkElephAnTS said – hmmmmm”

    BPE took that to mean whoszoomingwho was implying “Beast” and “BPE” were one in the same person.

    I merely responded that I was more inclined to believe BPE is Marinade…not that I thought you were (which doesn’t matter to me a wit if anyone posting here is or isn’t Marinade)

    Do you understand now? Sorry to be part of the confusion.

  772. Old Biddie said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Amazed – wise words. Interacting with someone who is so admantly opposed to the topic usually ends up in a bad place. I pass on the apple.

  773. Old Biddie said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:25 am

    adamantly, not admantly.

  774. ThoughtElf said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Hi Craig,

    If you have the opportunity would you please ask Bill or around the news room about the latest update to the court docket?

    04/23/2010—Notice of Unavailability—from Jose Baez

    Could they be trying to push out this week’s hearing?

    Thanks.

  775. nom de plume said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    I notice at the Sentinel site to the right of where one would post comments under the article of yesterday, under the “what’s hot” column at the bottom there is “letters to the editor”. Is this the place to write to the editor about this? I didn’t see any related comments, so think it must not be.

    Thanks, if anyone knows.

  776. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    ThoughtElf: April 26, 2010 at 11:39 am.

    another one of those things that makes ya just go hummmm.

    BTW LOVE the new pic you have!!

  777. ZS said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    tupljes, he’s right. I am an idiot! I am so sorry for that post earlier. I remembered to delete it on another blog and didn’t even notice it here. Very sorry!

  778. auntdeedee said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    sirjef8 said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:01 am
    For what it’s worth to life – -I think it’s time to disengage ourselves from glorifying Mr. Knechel – – – by any further comments – – – let him stew in his own Marinade sauce – – he’s doing a fine job of it by himself — Let LE – – – and the Power – of -GOD – – that is much greater than you or I – – resolve this matter – – -

    ______________

    Thank you, sirjef8, for taking the high road! I hope your friends will heed your advice. Take care!

  779. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Okie Dokie lets see if this works.

    http://judypc.wordpress.com/

  780. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    judypc, do you accept fake email addresses and proxy ip’s and of course PayPal? :lol:
    Just kidding girl, just kidding.

  781. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Yes, it sure is nice of Sirjeff to take the high road, and more attention is the last thing I want to give to a person with such low clas as Mr. Knechel, it’s nice that you agree Aunt DeeDee.

  782. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    lol hummmm paypal….

    Wonder how much someone might pay to just be able to say #@#!!! ;-)

  783. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Caylee and Casey Anthony, WFTVposted by halboedeker on April, 26 2010 9:56 AM

    You know a story has a touched a nerve when your physician, unsolicited, launches into a fiery editorial on the subject.

    That’s precisely what my doctor did last week on the topic of the Casey Anthony case, which just keeps piling up headlines. It was one of the more memorable visits to the doctor’s office. And to stay on good terms with my wonderful doctor, I won’t be sharing her incisive insights.

    I recently asked WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Bob Opsahl if he’d ever seen a story like this one and why there is such interest in it.

    “It is the ultimate reality show involving wild parties, multiple sex partners, serious family problems, lies, deceit and murder,” Opsahl told me.

    Of the players, Opsahl said, “Each one appears to be hiding a dark secret. The only innocent in the whole scenario is beautiful Caylee, the victim of a horrible crime. And almost every week, there are surprising new revelations, and a never-ending supply of fascinating plot twists. No, I’ve never seen a news story like that before. It’s going to be hard to forget the Casey Anthony saga, but I’ll try.”

    Casey is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Caylee. I think Caylee is the main reason the story holds enduring interest. People want justice for her and the full story about what happened to her.

    The other secrets and revelations are interesting, but Caylee supersedes everything.
    ———-

    sirjef8 was right last night. It is time to move on to what is coming up on Friday. Should be plenty to talk about that until then. I for one am done with MD besides, it is more fun to pick on judypc. :wink:

  784. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    INA: Even you surely recognize that the hair was investigated to eliminate people. Had it not been compared to all suspected involved, someone, like you, would have come along and said oh it is such and such’s hair and LE didn’t compare it. Fact is, they DID compare it, can’t connect it to anyone involved so it becomes a NON ISSUE. Just because they did not identify it, does not mean the “real” killer left it! That would be like me murdering someone and they find YOUR hair at the scene….does that make YOU the killer? I think not.

    The identification process was helpful however….it didn’t belong to anyone casey and the anthonys have accused….didn’t belong to imaginanny as it was from a caucasian head, not a half black, half hispanic woman as casey identified. Nope didn’t belong to Roy Kronk, nor Jesse Grund, nor Ricardo, nor Amy, didn’t belong to any one of these people. Didn’t belong to investigators, so no mishandling of evidence. Didn’t belong to casey or an anthony. I don’t know who it belonged to, no one connected to the case however, so NON ISSUE. Of course, it could belong to those little green men we spoke of, or Joy Wray who claimed she was walking in that EXACT spot. Maybe someone should yank out a few of her hairs to see if she was there. If it doesn’t match, will that satisfy your continued claim that she searched right there and Caylee’s body wasn’t there or will you finally admit she was not there? Here’s another thought…maybe it is marmalades hair? He sure want to be a part of this drama.

    Can’t make the hair mean anything….NON ISSUE, just floating flotsam.

  785. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    frankie,

    Good on you for that post. I hope that sinks in. :smile:

  786. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    BTW to the comment about SirJef not going to the hearing because he might be “afraid” of marmalade? Surely you jest! SirJef has never indicated he is afraid of anyone, much less this numbnuts. SirJef goes to hearings and sits quietly without becoming part of the case. He has consistently refused to do anything that would call attention to himself. His objective is only to support justice for Caylee because her disgusting grandparents cannot even sit on her side at a hearing. They sit behind her murderer in support of casey.

  787. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    I Say: It won’t…no amount of logic will ever change the agenda of some. LOL Ina never responds when someone answers her logically.

  788. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Well frankie, I didn’t know they had compared it with Krionk, I didn’t see that anywhere. But if you say so. To me it is a strange way of thinking: “the hair doesn’t belong to anyone we know, so it can’t come from the killer.”

  789. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Perhaps I have a different idea of logic?

  790. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Suppose the killer needs a place to hide the body. He makes sure the area is investigated by LE and other searchers first, then dumps the body there, knowing no one will look again. Is that a strange option?

  791. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Ina… could you tell me what Caylee was found in…. do not think about what was around her…say 5 feet away.
    Just tell me about what was Caylee in?

  792. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Found in? Her skull was in a bag, the bones were scattered? Why?

  793. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Ina… Caylee had 5 months of plant growth through the bags and the bones.
    are you saying one of the searchers put her there? Because how would the killer know when the area was done being searched unless you are saying it was a searcher.

  794. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    She was not just found in a bag…. was she? not just any bag…. what else was in the bag?

  795. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Unless he kept an eye on the spot? Perhaps he lives nearby or works nearby… If there was a search, he will hvae been able to know about that. It is just another theory of course.

  796. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    were the bones just scattered, Ina?
    Was the bones found in critter nest?
    were the bones intact… or were the knolled on by critters?

  797. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Whatawaste, if you know what was in the bag, why ask? I didn’t say that the belongings of Caylee couldn’t have been burried with her? In this theory the killer wanted to get rid of all the stuff in one time.

  798. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    “the hair doesn’t belong to anyone we know, so it can’t come from the killer.”
    I did NOT say any such thing so do not misquote me. I said it did not necessarily belong to the killer. Obviously it didn’t belong to the killer, because they eliminated casey as the donor.

  799. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    oh yeah the killer waiting for a place to drop the body has thousands of square miles to dump a body, but gosh chooses Suburban. and waits till LE has investigated it…

    Trouble is, how would “the killer” know when it had and had not been investigated…

    If “the killer” were watching the news…wouldn’t it make more sense to dump a body in an area certain NOT to be investigated…LOL

  800. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    Ina, do you really believe that one strange hair five or more feet away from where the remains were found is the smoking gun that points to a different killer? Do you think that since they cannot find the donor of that hair takes away from the voluminous evidence against Casey? Are you so against the Death Penalty that you would ignore evidence and just allow her to go free based on YOUR logic?

  801. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    You know that he bones were half eaten by animals, that the tibila (that bone) was smaller than normal etc, that makes no difference to my theory, which is just that.

  802. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Was there anything in the bag that could not be traced back to Casey Anthony?
    How did the killer manage to grow a plant that was intertwined into her spinal bones, Ina?
    How did a killer happen to place her fingers and teeth into the burrows of the critters?

  803. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Ina: Did you miss Whatawaste’s comment about the plant life growing through the bag and the bones? Did your theoretical killer have a greenhouse where he stored her bones and once the plants grew through them, he/she picked up the remains and replanted the plants at the dump site, complete with bag and bones intact?

  804. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    If it made sense, it would have been easy to solve this one, now wouldn’t it?
    I Say, I just think if that hair has no meaning, the FBI wouldn’t investigate it. Why would they do tests on a hair if the outcome is irrelevant?
    Must be off now, sorry. Bedtime! Night!

  805. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Ina, the bone was a bit shorter not smaller and if you know anything about anatomy and physiology, you would know that most of us walking around this earth have one leg a bit shorter than the other.

  806. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    What is the difference between smaller and shorter?

  807. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    frankie: the plants on the pic were not that big large tall, they could have grown in less time as well, I think. As plants grow like crazy there. Now bye!

  808. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Damit Ina, frankie explained that to you in detail. Why the hell are you being so stubborn and why didn’t you answer my questions?

  809. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    You know that he bones were half eaten by animals, that the tibila (that bone) was smaller than normal etc, that makes no difference to my theory, which is just that.
    —————
    but it does. As the last known search was on NOV16th by the Anthony family PI …. then the body would have been placed there after that…. so in less than a month a plant grows 5 months worth of growth her bones are placed in the dens of nesting animals…. the killer preplanned by going to the anthony home and stealing the blanket and the canvas laundry bag and caylee’s clothing…. all before she was known to be missing….

  810. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Normally smaller refers to diameter, shorter refers to length.

    I Say: See what I mean? LOL

  811. Ina said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Ah! But that last search might not have been known to the kiler to happen! And they overlooked …

  812. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Ina… the LE nor the FBI choose what to investigate. They follow though with what is there. It is not up to the crime scene investigators to say okay this is important this is not… they bag it all and send it in for tests.

  813. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Aw crap, I just got it Ina. Caylee committed suicide and took all that stuff that belonged to her and from the house to frame Casey for murder. Where has my mind been? Case over!!

  814. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Ina: I am no plant expert, however, the people that ARE plant experts said it was 5 months growth. Height has nothing to do with the determination of how old a something is. If so, I would be 15 foot by now! LOL

  815. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Ina they have never shown the picture of the plantlife that was growing in the bag…. where the h#lll did you see that photo?
    Those photos are sealed evidence.

  816. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Normally smaller refers to diameter, shorter refers to length.

    I Say: See what I mean? LOL
    ——————-

    I KNOW that frankie, Im a nurse of decomposition ya know. :wink:

  817. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    gosh when the weather cools the plant life grows slower….. or is it only in florida that the plant life speeds up in Nov – december?

  818. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    INA WHERE DID YOU SEE THE PHOTOS OF THE PLANT LIFE GROWING THOUGH THE BAG AND CAYLEE’S REMAINS?

  819. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Maybe it was Ina’s hair….that’s how she knows how tall those plants were…

    See how ludicrous that is Ina? About as much a non issue as you knowing how tall the plants were.

    Whatawaste: Excellent point. I sure hope the crime scene investigators don’t go around making spot decisions about what is and what is not important. How would they know the hair was not important until AFTER they investigated it?

  820. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Where the heck did Cindy Anthony come up with that one “nurse of decomposition?” She actually said that and I almost fell out of my chair laughing.

  821. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    frankie, your patience is to be commended, but futile. Just scroll on by Different agenda, the “Irony” is evident.

  822. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    I say: Yeah…I knew what you meant. I was explaining to Ina. Apparently she doesn’t speaka da englais very well! I think I am going back for a nursing degree. I’ll bet a nurse of decomposition makes a lot of $$$$…no wait, that can’t be right…cindy is broke!

  823. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Sorry that was unclear. There is a different agenda is what I wanted to say. She may be helping out an old friend with a bit of deflection.

  824. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    frankie, we have to thank our Heavenly Father Ina is not an American living in Orlando and is called to jury duty for this trial.

  825. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    I Say: I don’t know. cindy comes up with so much silliness that I am just awestruck. She sure must have gone back for seconds when they were dishing up stupid.

    Amazed: Thanks, I know it is futile, but I just can’t help myself. My family is so happy that I found blogging because now they don’t have to debate me so much! LOL I’ve been busy for awhile, so I am blog deprived and Ina is the only one offering a different opinion. I sure can’t argue about marmalades site, since I agree with everyone about him.

  826. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    I Say: I have to agree with that. I think casey and anyone else accused of a crime should get a fair trial. That being said, once convicted, she should get the maximum penalty allowed by law. If one doesn’t agree with the law, lobby to change it….but she shouldn’t get a pass just because she is facing the death penalty. That is the law. I think too many people believe that murder must be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt….they forget the law states it must be proven beyond REASONABLE doubt.

  827. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    frankie, you are funny, we could feed each other one liners about Cindy for days on end. :lol:

  828. Diana said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    *Sirjeff

    Please ~You could REALLY continue taking the high road if *Dave and you could shake and let all this hatred go. Life really is short.

    This blog has quite a few very good commentors and I have learned so much about this case from this blog, I rarely miss a day of reading it, and always think how great it could be if it was like it used to be. Everyone commented on everyones blogs, and it was all about the case minus the personal attacks. ~Diana

  829. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    “they forget the law states it must be proven beyond REASONABLE doubt.” Well, that would rule out the Dutch woman. Nothing reasonable about her sadly.

  830. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    I have a question…If casey had been charged with aggravated child abuse or neglect and Caylee died as a result of that, what would the maximum penalty be?

  831. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/04/26/cayleecasey-anthony-case-is-jose-baez-out/#comments
    Orlando, FL– Following a Thursday afternoon request for a status meeting request by newly self-appointed-by-way-of recusal, Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jose Baez filed a notice of unavailability to the 9th Circuit court.

    In fact, he filed notices of unavailability in every case he has on the docket.
    Unconfirmed rumors are swirling in abundance today that the Florida Bar Association has finally decided to intervene.

    In a conversation with a representative with the FBA this afternoon, blinkoncrime.com was able to learn that if there is a newly filed complaint against Mr. Baez, they would not be able to confirm or deny that information publicly until such time as it reached a “probable cause for investigation status.”

    This comes on the heels of former Anthony defense attorney Todd Macaluso’s REMOVAL from the California Bar, effective today.

  832. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    3-5 years….

  833. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Diana: SirJef has done NOTHING to stir this. He posted about his day in court and was attacked for his comments. Others have taken up the cause, but Sir has had little to say about the entire thing. His interest is in justice for Caylee.

    I Say: I agree. I thought the Dutch people were in large part a liberal and well educated populace. Well, at least, if you consider opposition to the death penalty a liberal thought process, I suppose our Dutch friend is liberal.

  834. joypath said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    WOW! Wish I had the opportunity to experience the amazing conceptualization of applied logic, the new world of botany and especially the phenomenal interpretation of anatomy and physiology a la Ina, it would have saved me so many years of academia. I imagine poor Edmond Locard is turning in his grave at the total misunderstanding of the basic principles of forensic science.

    reason for collecting and testing materials found at a crime scene: anything and everything is suspect until ruled out as “immaterial and irrelevant”

  835. whatawaste said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    sorry I was just joking…… about 3-5
    In the State of Florida if you are charged with Child Abuse the potential penalties are severe, including up to life in prison if the Abuse is determined to be willful and aggravated.

  836. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Diana,

    Having blogged with sirjef for nearly two years, I can ASSURE you there will be no hand shaking going on…

    To post his name below a sex offender, to next do an entire article on sir and state a Gay relationship with the cropped out individual who happened to be his son is asking too much…

    perhaps you missed those events, but now that you know, I’m sure even you will agree sir’s last post on the subject is all there will be……and all there need be….and even that was generous of sir.

  837. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    frankie, The aggravated child abuse statute is viewed to cover both abuse and
    neglect. Resulting in the child dying, the penalty could be as high as whatawaste just said.

  838. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    @ Diana,

    I don’t think Sirjeff owes an apology to MD, however if he did extend one, instead of a subpoena for a lawsuit to MD, he certainly would be taking the high road. I personally vote for the subpoena.

  839. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Thanks I Say and Whatawaste. Just curious. So if casey had stuck to the imaginanny story the State could have argued that it was aggravated because she had no idea who this woman was, where she lived or how to contact her….hmmm, same result basically. IMO a LWOP is as bad as the DP, but that is just me.

    RS and Amazed: I agree with both statements. I vote for the subpoena as well.

  840. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Is Jose Baez Out

    Baez filed a notice of unavailability to the 9th Circuit court.

    In fact, he filed notices of unavailability in every case he has on the docket.

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/04/26/cayleecasey-anthony-case-is-jose-baez-out/

  841. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    EVERYBODY LOOK!!! Baez might be gone!!!

    Orlando, FL– Following a Thursday afternoon request for a status meeting request by newly self-appointed-by-way-of recusal, Chief Judge Belvin Perry, Jose Baez filed a notice of unavailability to the 9th Circuit court.

    In fact, he filed notices of unavailability in every case he has on the docket.

    Unconfirmed rumors are swirling in abundance today that the Florida Bar Association has finally decided to intervene.

    http://blinkoncrime.com/

  842. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Frankie! Great minds!!

  843. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    You do all realize that MD just came to his site from far away from Orlando to make a statement. He says that IF sirjeff apologizes to HIM he will in turn apologize to him. So within minutes Diana is asking that Sirjeff take the higher road! Diana, until MD & SS attacked so many, there was peace on the blogs. Food for thought. As a matter of fact, he sent YOU packing a time or two, your graciousness is to be commended.

    It also does not escape anyone, that his plan is to say he did not do that horrible disgusting chicken blog that suppossedly sent SS into hiding because he isn’t in Orlando. Well I’m not in Orlando, and I am blogging about the case!

  844. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Bees, frankie??

  845. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Sorry, I say. I was just noticing that both Frankie and I made the same comment at the same time. “Great minds think alike (tongue in cheek)!”

  846. LMAO said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    I don’t think Diana is aware of what went on last night which has since been deleted.

  847. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    I see absolutely NO reason for Sir to apologize. He did not lie on marmalade. I agree with RS…don’t see it happenin! I stand solidly behind Sir.

    I say: Did you have a question for me? I am confused

  848. Riot Gear said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    I have been reading this back and forth. It is very evident that sirjef8 did start the fight by writing about someone’s stench. That was libelous. There was no way he could prove any of it to be true. I watched the raw video and saw with my own eyes that sirjef8 entered the court AFTER MD and purposely sat next to him. If he knew who MD was, why did he sit next to him? To write a BS story? Although I would not condone MD’s retaliation one bit, he did not start the fight. I have read all sorts of nasty comments about him on the RS blog for a long time. It really does SMELL to me like MD was set up and everyone of you kept rubbing it in.

  849. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Md is over ther dripping with hypocrisy. What is between him and Sir is between them.. HA! After you attached his name to a sex offenders picture on the internet. CLown!

  850. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Bees, look again, you and I made the same comment at the same time. That is why I said frankie??

  851. amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    You are a riot “Riot Gear” I am sure he sat there because he wanted a seat near the front, as did Mr. MD. No plot, just a choice seat. If you were “covering the story” would you sit as close as possible, or not. As far as “smelly” being libelous, then I gues there are about 2,000 women who could sue the man you are attempting to protect, as he has been doing that to people for over two years. Learn your facts.

  852. Uppity Woman said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Riot? MD was set up? HOW? Isn’t he an adult capable of making and acting on his own decisions? Do you think this is the first time he has acted this way? Was he set up every single time? WOW. That’s approaching “conspiracy” status. Do you think there is a conspiracy afoot to “set up” Marinade Dave?

  853. Riot Gear said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    I also see that RS blog with sirjef8 comment is deleted. I know what I saw and read. Now, you all lie in public and say it was never there? WHY WAS IT DELETED?

  854. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Riot Gear,

    What you know about the law, I have already forgotten. Saying someone stinks is not libel. I can tell a cop he stinks and to go to hell and it is not libel nor can he arrest me for it. You are just another troll in here stirring the pot. and it isn’t necessary. Things were going well till you got here. Stay out of it and let MD and Sir deal with it themselves. It didn’t happen to you so it is none of your business. Now I am saying publicly what you say stinks and so do you. Sue me.

  855. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Ooooops! I got that wrong, I Say. Sorry! I’m easily confused!

  856. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    So. What do we think about this latest Bozo business? Pretty interesting, non? Blink is speculating that he’s being removed from the case!!! Or, leaving of his own accord.

  857. Riot Gear said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    I’m not looking for trouble from anyone. I am trying to justify the whole thing in my mind. How can you say sirjef8 did NOTHING AT ALL when he instigated the fight and kept at it? There is a blog all about MD that is nothing but sewer junk.

  858. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    amazed said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:03 pm Md is over ther dripping with hypocrisy. What is between him and Sir is between them.. HA! After you attached his name to a sex offenders picture on the internet. CLown!

    ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ . ~ .

    HA ~ Riiiiiiight. Between him and Sir and about 1,000 bloggers. Very private.

  859. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Riot Gear,

    One more thing, RS hasn’t deleted anything. You are just on the wrong page. Probably in life also.

  860. Riot Gear said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    I Say says

    It didn’t happen to you so it is none of your business.

    ******************************

    I say to I Say It didn’t happen to you so it is none of your business.

  861. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    I have to go check out this Bozo business now . . .

  862. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:20 pm: “I have a question…If casey had been charged with aggravated child abuse or neglect and Caylee died as a result of that, what would the maximum penalty be?”

    Casey WAS charged with “Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child” – a first degree felony – (along with the murder charge). If it was determined (just to answer your question) that Caylee died as a result of Casey’s negligence (accident) the maximum term is 30 years.

  863. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    That’s ok Bees, I got stung by a yellow jacket today named Riot Gear but I am about to smash him/her with my Swat Gear.

  864. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Those yellow jackets can be nasty!!! Watch out, I Say!

  865. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    “I say to I Say It didn’t happen to you so it is none of your business.”

    Aww gee, you hurt my feelers now and I am only in third grade. I am going to pick up my marbles and run home and tell my mamma a bully just attacked me. She’ll fix you.

  866. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    Hmmm..why does the rant of Riot, and the deceit seem familiar, too familiar in fact, old and tiresome…..

    First, I did not delete Sir’s comments about his observations at a hearing, I believe they are still up in the older Part showing…..but should they not be, I have historically archived the blog I set up and have since i opened it up for us who were at the time WFTV bloggers on the old WFTV blog…

    I do not go in and delete unless someone asks me to, or if they go way overboard and get banned which is few nad far between, with one exception, when what Marmalade posted contained a person’s e-mail address and it was copied to the blog I set up, i did go in and delete portions of that person’s e-mail address, so it would not appear….

    And for the record Riot…you seem to refer to the blog as RS’s blog just as marmalade did/does….so take note the name of the blog is not RS…it is

    justiceforcaylee.wordpress.com/

  867. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    Riot Gear, if you think the backlash against Marinade is simply because of what he did to Sir (as horrible, immature and ridiculous as that was) you are woefully mistaken.

    You need to get the facts. I’ve read them myself here and at the Orlando Sentinel site.

    You can choose to ignore if you like and instead believe in fairy tales.

  868. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Be careful all, don’t use any words with more than two syllables in them, Riot won’t be able to understand them.

  869. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    I don’t see a problem with Baez being gone, what is J. Cheney Mason there for? Maybe he isn’t ready to ask Judge Perry if he trusts him yet.

  870. Riot Gear said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    RS is just easier to type and I am arthritic. I still think the whole thing got out of hand. As for not being able to use words with more than 2 syllables, there goes the stench of personal ridicule again. I Say is a whopping 2 words with 1 syllable each. That takes smarts. When a dumb person has no defense, they throw insults. No matter what, the issue should be about a crime, not MD and sirjef8. You will not admit both could be wrong. That’s the way I see it.

    Why are YOU all sticking your noses in it when you tell me to mind my own business? Who are you?

  871. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    I will guarantee that RS didn’t delete anything at all. She puts up a new page when posts number around 1000 so that those with slower connections don’t have such a problem refreshing.

  872. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Sorry RS….didn’t see you here.

  873. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Team Casey “RAN” from cameras today when they showed up at Mark Nejames office.

    Mark Nejames is asking new judge to force them to get the records they want to look at, LOOKED at and stop this playing around.

    When the media showed up Team Casey Ran away from the reporters.

  874. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    No frankie, it was actually a question for Bees and she caught it. Sorry I didn’t see your question earlier. I was too busy swatting yellow jackets. :wink:

  875. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Riot Gear: I am sticking my nose in it because Sir has not carried on this vendetta. He has consistently stood behind Caylee. He did comment that marmalade needed a bath, but that was in the context of telling his home blog about his impressions of the characters involved in this three ring circus. He was asked to do so by those on his home blog. That simple statement would have stayed right there and never affected marmalade if he had not chosen to c&p the information to his own blog and then post SirJefs real name under the picture of a RSO. Broken down into terms anyone can understand…..marmalade LIED, SirJef did not.

  876. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Gee riot it might be because I was referred to as a fat cow by marmalade…

    had a few marmalettes posting nonsense to the blog I set up…not so unlike you are now here….appears you lack all the facts as they did when attempting to post to the blog…

    Judy,

    Which team members fled?

    Linda NY…..I forgot, sorry, I do accept your sincere apology…should have posted that earlier

  877. frankie said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    JudyPC…Please tell me there is a link…I need a good laugh! Go Count!!

  878. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Frankie the report just said Caseys lawyers, it was on wesh2 so you might check their site.

  879. nom de plume said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Riot – I am joining in the fight because your remarks insulted me. When you defend a person like MD, that is an insult to decent people. I don’t see where it has been mentioned above about the cute little blog MD opened yesterday that was nothing but pornography, the chicken without a head. He impersonated a well known blogger and made very slanderous, nasty remarks, posted under the guise of others he feels “done him wrong” . It was just disgusting and demonstrates what a sick person he is. Yes, maybe Sirjef did not have to say that MD smells, but that was his opinion and he has a right to that opinion. That remark in no way justifies what MD has done, on many, many occasions, to Sirjef. I think MD is ridiculous to think that he can trick an apology from Sirjef just so he can turn around and use it against him, and oh, yes, he would.

  880. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Judypc,

    I know that you have a can with a long string attached to another can at the Orange County Court House and NeJames Office but would you throw out a couple more cans so we can hear what is going on also? As in a link Deary.

  881. nameless said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    I will be sorely disappointed if Sir apologizes in any way shape or form to Mr. Stinky. But that’s his decision to make.

  882. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    A local lawyer well versed in DP said this motion filed by team Casey is unheard of.
    And since the court allowed her to be declared indge/ it is nothing more than to have everything under the sun to file for an appeal after conviction.

    He was the lawyer in the Deltona mass murder a few years ago, he said the total amount added up to 1.6 million, this was for 4 defendents & 8 lawyers.

  883. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    I Say:

    wesh2.com

    Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony made a quick entrance and exit Friday at the office of the lawyer for Texas EquuSearch.

    The attorneys reportedly left after the news media showed up.

    Officials with EquuSearch said they now plan to try to break the standoff with Anthony’s defense team in court.

    A source said officials with Texas EquuSearch want the new judge in the case, Belvin Perry, to weigh in because they’re they are fed up with playing the waiting game with Anthony’s defense.

    For more than eight months, officials with Texas EquuSearch have waged an epic legal battle have fought to keep private records of Central Florida residents who answered their call for help.

    Those searches ended Dec. 11, 2008, with the discovery of Caylee Anthony’s bones along Suburban Drive.

    In August 2009, Anthony’s defense team won the right to review records of those who searched closest to the location where Caylee’s remains were found.
    Anthony’s attorneys claim at least two of those searchers looked in the very spot where Caylee’s remains were found and saw nothing. That would back up their claim that someone else put the remains there after Anthony was indicted on murder charges and jailed on Oct. 14, 2008.

    A source said EquuSearch plans to file legal paperwork to have the judge order Anthony’s defense to review the records and be done with it.
    EquuSearch attorney Mark NeJame would not comment on what the group is planning.

  884. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Riot Gear, are you familiar with Marinade – not his blog articles – but his venomous words/comments, childish ways and means which overwhelm his blog postings – there for all to see who want to see?

    This isn’t about one issue, this is about a man who can be known for what he is, simply by reading the words that he writes….and why does that matter?…because he has become a player in this case….arrived just where he wanted to be, only to find public scrutiny is a beotch when you’ve been a real nasty, controlling, ridiculing, power hungry, authoritarian.

    He aspired to this and he’s arrived. The journey here was his, and the road ahead is his.

    You know what he needs to do…for starters…grow the F up…it’s way beyond time!

    Here’s what I think, I think Marinade is a mean and nasty man, despite what his (1?) friend of 40 years has to say about it. You want to know how I know? Take a wild guess, and no, I’m not Sir, and neither are the hundreds (thousands?) of others of us who he tried along the way, and in some cases succeeded, to humiliate, ridicule, castigate, out our private information and identities, stifle…..

    Yes, sir, he’s a real charmer. The Orlando Sentinel’s “Nice Guy” of the week!!

  885. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Riot, why on earth would Sir apologize? And to answer your question about who’s business this is, let me tell you that he has been calling me filthy names for months now. And last week he posted my real name. Why? Because I’ve been critical of his blog. And because I’ve defended bloggers that I like against his immature harassment. When you put yourself out there as he has with his blog, you are open to criticism. If he couldn’t deal with it then he should have removed himself from the public. I’ve never called him a filthy name yet. And if I had his address I would never print it. People on his blog (and I know who it was) lifted my gravatar and user name a few months ago and used it to make filthy comments on another blog with it. I have the proof. So, tell me again why I should feel bad for his miserable existence now that everyone has caught on to him.

    Judy, that’s hilarious. I have to go find that!

  886. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    A real mother:

    This evening right after a report on Casey Anthony, and then yet another Florida mother who murdered her 3 year old can a report about a mother in Mississippi that died protecting her 3 sons from the deadly storm that hit.

    She placed her 3 small sons under a heavy mattress she ripped from the bed, then she placed herself on top of that mattress to hold it in place, while the tornado raged tearing their home apart.

    Rescue workers found her there her body still protecting her children, they removed the 3 babies and took them to the hospital, where they were found to be healthy and unharmed.

    They were asking for Mommy, the oldest boy who looked to be about 4 or 5 said he knew his mommy was gone, her family said her act did not surprise them at all, she was always above all else a “Mom” that her boys were the number one thing in her life.
    Now ladies & gentlemen THAT IS A MOTHER!!!!

    Not some pole climbing, skank that throws her baby into a woods to rot.

  887. LindaNewYork said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    RS-Would love to move on!!! Thanks.

    Have a good nite all. Nothing to say, unlike yesterday!!

  888. murmelmurmelmurmel said, on April 26, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Hi all …

    I’ve tried to view this earlier-posted link:

    http://inatheheadlesschicken.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/ahum-mr-md/

    and entered my wordpress username and password, but it isn’t there. Have tried the google/cache page as well, with the same result.

    Does anyone know if there is any other way to read this?

    Thank you.

  889. ThoughtElf said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Hey Jude! (You know I love singing that.)

    I’m just doing a catch-up and hoping someone has more news on when & why Jose is unavailable. Like you, I was going hmmmmmm…

    And maybe hoping a bit. ;)

  890. the JBmission said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    RS said:
    oh yeah the killer waiting for a place to drop the body has thousands of square miles to dump a body, but gosh chooses Suburban. and waits till LE has investigated it…

    Trouble is, how would “the killer” know when it had and had not been investigated…

    If “the killer” were watching the news…wouldn’t it make more sense to dump a body in an area certain NOT to be investigated…LOL

    ======================================
    What??? That doesn’t make sense. Of course the killer would choose Suburban Drive. It’s “close to home” isn’t it? And why NOT December 11, 2008? This is when Cindy and George were in California doing the Larry King show. Perfect time to find a body. Why not let Kronk to go and find her AGAIN? Sounds like a good time to find a body and get an automatic search warrant on the Anthony home without those pesky attorneys hanging around. Geesh..
    You’re actually witnessing what really happens in the world of law enforcement. You’ve already seen the “jailhouse snitch trick”.. What better picture do you need to see what’s really going on in Orlando Florida??
    Just sit back and relax. It’s all been taken care of. Enjoy the show.

  891. the JBmission said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    yeah, yeah, yeah..
    Jose Baez won’t be @ court this Friday or forever?? Nahh…come on. If Baez is out, maybe it’s a good thing for the defense. Maybe the prosecution will have to really work now since Mason is @ the helm.
    People Paleezzz…

  892. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Sorry for the O/T Craig:

    Nadia Bloom Appears On ‘Today

    ORLANDO, Fla. –
    The Winter Springs girl who spent four nights alone in the woods shared her story with the world on Monday.

    Nadia Bloom, 11, spoke with Matt Lauer on NBC’s “Today” that she knew she was lost after an hour in the woods.

    http://www.wesh.com/news/23265732/detail.html

  893. BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    Hinky has a fresh blog up about Caylee’s backpack.

    http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/04/26/the-backpack/#comments

  894. RS said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    JBmission,

    Gosh, in an alternate reality what you posted might make sense…

    but here in our reality the anthonys were on their way back to Orlando arriving same day as remains discovered, and let’s see, meeting up at the Ritz as opposed to going home to be served the search warrant…

    You might try keeping up with the events of the case better, or posting from actual events that happened in this reality, not the one you were working from when you posted.

  895. ThoughtElf said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    joypath said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Now there is a voice of reason I certainly won’t argue with! I always enjoy reading your astute insights, JoyPath.

  896. ThoughtElf said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    That was such a feel good article, wasn’t it? She’s a brave, smart little sweetheart.

  897. ThoughtElf said, on April 26, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    BEES KNEES said, on April 26, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Bees, a friend just brought up a good point. I wonder if that rumour about ex-JB’s secretary signing a statement for the SAO is true? You know the one about JB’s behavior with KC while she was out on bail?

    I think it would be more likely that he is in poop for the letter passing with the family & smuggling things in to KC, or additional financial issues, but this idea is one that does make you go hmmmm.

  898. the JBmission said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    RS,
    Again, you don’t make any sense. What? And because you stated, it’s gospel? I think not. Ritz Carlton story is gossip. Please be so kind to post the link you are referring from.
    BTW, it is a rumor about Baez. He’ll only be out 11days or so. This is only the beginning of facts that are being shot down. Wait till you hear the real facts.

  899. nom de plume said, on April 26, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    JBM – I didn’t really dissect the post, but the brief glance made me think that you and RS are talking about two separate murderers. If I tried to really read it I would get confused. If this clears it up, good. If not, scusa. :)

  900. Rachel said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Artist, cook and blogger: ‘Marinade Dave’ stirs up Casey Anthony case

    They deleted all of the comments on Orlando Sentinel article.

    They ought to wipe out the article too, it’s shoddy journalism, pure fiction, outright lies.

    *********************************

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-casey-anthony-marinade-dave-20100425,0,3040124,full.story

  901. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    the JBmission
    Okay, even if we assume the body appeared on the 11th, while Larry King was holding the Anthonys hands.

    How do we set aside that the murderer placed the body in the trunk of that car?
    How do we set aside the 31 days of no 911, and then it was no her that called even then?
    How do we set aside the cadaver dogs hitting at the home and the car?
    How do we set aside the decomp in the car & on the paper towels found in the car?
    How do we set aside the coffin fly’s in the car?
    How do we set aside the grave wax in the car?
    How do we set aside the “BIG” lies, I.E Zanny the nanny, the empty apt, and the no job @ Universal?
    How do we set aside the second Zanny story, attacked at the park, yada -yada -yada
    How do we set aside the chloroform in the trunk?

    Are we to assume this SOGDI in all these little nagging things?

  902. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    IMO even if we might for a moment consider that Caylee’s body was moved to that site at some later point, which I will never believe, all that would prove is that someone in the Anthony clan moved it there.

    You can not poo-poo away the evidence that was found in that car, no matter how hard to try, it still comes back to that car is the most damning piece of evidence.

  903. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    ThoughtElf :

    In reality he is prob just going on vacation, so won’t hold my breath.

    I like the song too, but I fear we just outted ourselves to being a couple of old wankers lol

  904. I Say said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Rachel said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Artist, cook and blogger: ‘Marinade Dave’ stirs up Casey Anthony case

    They deleted all of the comments on Orlando Sentinel article.

    They ought to wipe out the article too, it’s shoddy journalism, pure fiction, outright lies.
    ————————-

    Rachel, if you click on Add Comment they are all still there. All six pages of them. I don’t know why it says 0 comments but they did not delete any of them.

  905. sirjef8 said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    With Respect to All – - I’ve nothing to apologize for – - nor will I ever shake his hand again – - I did that – - when he extended his hand to me on 3/18 – -I had no clue who he was when I took a seat beside him – - until – he offered up information and handed me his card – - – Apology? Not!

  906. ThoughtElf said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    the JBmission said, on April 26, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    I am betting a ham sammich and a pink twinkie that there will be a plea orchestrated by Cheney, and that 11 days vacay, or not, JB is off the case in the next few months.

    KC had her CTJ moment with Cheney, and JB is no longer in KC’s ‘da boys’ club.

    How close to the real facts, JB? :)

  907. ThoughtElf said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 10:42

    Wouldn’t that be Wankettes? We can start our own female doo-wop group and sing along with KC to Cheney while her main Boy is away:

    “He went away
    And you hung around and bothered me every night
    And, when I wouldn’t go out with you
    You said things that weren’t very nice

    My boyfriend’s back, and you’re gonna be in trouble
    (Hey la, hey la, my lawyer’s back)
    When you see him comin’, better cut on the double
    (Hey la, hey la, my lawyer’s back)
    You’ve been spreadin’ lies that I was untrue
    (Hey la, hey la, my lawyer’s back)
    So look out now, ’cause he’s comin’ after you
    (Hey la, hey la, my lawyer’s back)

    Hey, he knows that you’ve been tryin’
    And he knows that you’ve been lyin’ …”

    We really have to work the harmony out, yes?

    I agree that to date the car is the most damning piece of physical evidence, but I think the lies, partying, Zanny and Sawgrass are the most damning pieces of circumstantial evidence, after the 31 days, of course.

  908. C said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Sirjef. Your friends are applauding. lol

  909. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    ROFLMAO @ ThoughtElf ” Wankettes” Indeed that would be us lol.

  910. judypc said, on April 26, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    sirjef8:

    My friend you have nothing to apologize for.

    What was done to you was beyond low, I can not for the life of me understand anyone that could or would do such a thing.

    You continue to hold your head high, and know that you have much support.

  911. SomeThoughts said, on April 27, 2010 at 12:18 am

    Uppitywoman…….I hope you’re right that Mason or someone else will ask for an order of protection with MD and ban him from the court room. He has absolutely no business there, he’s not a journalist even though he calls himself that, in fact, he’s proven himself to be a huge detriment to this case all around. Is there anyone we can email, or petition to help that cause along? MD asked for all the bad publicity he’s getting so I’m not sure why he’s whining about it. For him to voluntarily allow himself to be interviewed by the PI was over the top stupid and self-centered, no other way to think about it. He put his own inflated ego before justice for Caylee when he did that.

    This is the first time I learned of SS being handicapped and losing a child…both very sad…but it might at least partially explain her horribly mean disposition so maybe people should back off and leave her wallow in it with MD’s companionship or whatever it is they have together. It’s never right to make fun of a handicap, might be one of us someday ya know.

  912. Joe said, on April 27, 2010 at 12:24 am

    Sirfef8, If you can not apologize for what you did to MD (to be sorry for) can you “ask for forgiveness,” so God can resolve? Neither of you are very wise to not have humility.
    Blessings usually fall short when we have haughtiness in the presence of Almighty God. (You brought God up in your comment, or I would not have) Good Luck!

  913. CatCarr said, on April 27, 2010 at 12:39 am

    murmelmurmelmurmel — Doesn’t appear anyone paid any attention to you. Sorry about that. The blog has been removed.

  914. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:09 am

    Goodmorining.

    Just to answer about those plants: I saw a pic of Caylees remains with a plant growing throug a bone, iperhaps it was in the evidence docs. It looked like about 10 centimeters high, well our weeds grow faster than that in a week. If the FBI has experts that can destroy evidence, then I wonder how competent the experts are in determing how long a plant has grown. But it was just a theory, that is all. If it is really impossible that the body was placed there after the big search, then : let it be.

  915. SomeThoughts said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:18 am

    Ina, you are mistaken.

    You did not see any of Caylee’s bones in the documents; the autopsy photos are still under seal and any photos taken at the woods by LE have not been released. I hope those are never, ever published, in fact.

    Please let that baby rest with some integrity.

  916. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:22 am

    @Judypc, it makes a diference if it was someone else from the Anthony clan, or Casey who did the crime, so if there is doubt, I don’t think a conviction of Casey is possible.
    The smell is what makes the difference in this stinking case, and if the smell of a dead body is so strong, then in this case it must still be there if I am correct. Four years?

    So the car was used to transport the decomposing body. I think that must be true. But when? From where to where? Driven by whom? We know Casey has driven the car and parked it where it was towed away from. No one saw her put a bag in the car, or take it out. it was not her car I think, but it belonged to someone of the Anthony clan.

    Someone could have framed her. Probably not I suppose, but as long as the evidence is not any harder than this, I don’t think Casey can go to prison, or worse.

    I have a question for mr Sheaffer or any other person who owns a lawbook :) : About a jury: now we know judges can be fooled by bloggers, I wonder how this will effect on the choice of jury members. Will they have to promise never to have read a blog about the case or something like that?

  917. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:23 am

    So it is not integer to look for answers if that means not accusing the mother?

  918. SomeThoughts said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:39 am

    Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:23 am

    So it is not integer to look for answers if that means not accusing the mother?

    Ina, I’m going to guess you were trying to say “integrity”, (not integer), in reference to my post about allowing Caylee to rest with integrity. My comment pertained to your claim that you had seen Caylee’s bones. You did not see her bones, and to say that you did is disgraceful to Caylee. Let her rest, leave her be “unseen” in her present state instead of fabricating a lie that you have seen pictures of her bones. Get it now?

  919. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:45 am

    http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/medical_examiners_report.pdf here it says that the body must have been there months before it was found, not how many months.

  920. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:51 am

    I was not fabricating, I definitely saw a pic and it was said it were the remains of Caylee, with a plant groing throw one of the bones. But as everything on Internet, it may have been a fake then. If I ever find it, I will show it ok.
    Integer is dutch, translated it says sound. I meant integrity though, but you can’t say : It is not integrity to say… etc.

  921. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:52 am

    through not throw

  922. CatCarr said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:55 am

    Members of the jury are not allowed to read newspapers, listen to and watch the news, or research the web while on duty.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/17/mistrial-by-iphone-juries_n_175881.html

  923. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:59 am

    Thanks Catcarr, but before they are on duty, of course they can, and if they read blogs that are biased, what will that do to their judgement?

  924. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 3:00 am

    At leas papers and news are often sort of corrected when something is not quite true, I think, but a blogwriter can do as he/she pleases.

  925. CatCarr said, on April 27, 2010 at 3:11 am

    The jury is chosen on the basis of answers given when questioned thoroughly as to knowlege of the case and if they will be impartial.

  926. CatCarr said, on April 27, 2010 at 3:13 am

    Complete list of all discovery released: http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/documents-discovery/

    No photographs of Caylee’s remains are included.

  927. CB said, on April 27, 2010 at 4:21 am

    Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:51 am

    I was not fabricating, I definitely saw a pic and it was said it were the remains of Caylee, with a plant groing throw one of the bones. But as everything on Internet, it may have been a fake then. If I ever find it, I will show it ok.
    Integer is dutch, translated it says sound. I meant integrity though, but you can’t say : It is not integrity to say… etc.

    *****

    You are fabricating this, or just sadly mistaken. Which ever one applies, you won’t ever admit it and it is useless trying to argue with you. You heard about the plant growing through a bone, and you heard that because it was in a doc dump from a report, NOT a photo. YOU DID NOT SEE IT!

    You won’t find those photos as they are NOT on the internet, but you keep looking girl, it might get you off this blog for a few days and give us some peace and quiet. Gees get a clue.

    I have yet to work out if you’re obtuse or if this is the normal behavior of a Dutch National, having met a few in my time, they can be unusual to say the least.

    No photos of Caylee’s remains have been released….EVER.

    Do you get that INA?

    I’ll say it again…No photos of Caylee’s remains have been released….EVER.

    Okay enough of the reality check.

    INA carry on with your usual BS.

  928. murmelmurmelmurmel said, on April 27, 2010 at 4:50 am

    Catcarr: Thank you very much for your reply. If anyone has a screen capture of the link and would be willing to share it with me, could you please let me know?

    Thanks again!

  929. Scotswoman said, on April 27, 2010 at 5:59 am

    Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:23 am

    So it is not integer to look for answers if that means not accusing the mother?

    ——————————————————–
    No, not if you back up your SODDI theories with some logic. That is something you consistently fail to do Ina. Oh, except for thinly veiled suggestions that OCSD,the FBI and various world renowned experts are all party to some great conspiracy against Casey Anthony.

    Now, you make out you saw a photo of Caylee’s sealed autopsy photos. How do you expect people to take you seriously Ina? lol

    Would you care to give your opinion on Dr Neil Haskel’s report on the evidence he discovered in the trunk of Casey’s car, a car she admits leaving at Amscot on 27th June 2008………11 days after Caylee was seen alive. Note, Casey acknowledges a bad smell in her vehicle ………… via text messages to Amy on 25th June 2008.

    I think is a certainty that the defence will be checking out the credentials of ALL of the State’s witnesses, although Haskel is an established highly respected world reknowned expert in his field……. so maybe asking him for his CV would be kinda moot.

  930. LindaNewYork said, on April 27, 2010 at 6:28 am

    BTW, Bees, saw you comment RE: Lovely Bones! What a movie. Cannot wait to read the book. Usually book 1st, movie 2nd!

  931. CatCarr said, on April 27, 2010 at 6:30 am

    Sure… no prob. Someone may have a shot of it. I don’t think it’s worth it, though. I saw it and it was just a bunch of nonsense. What followed was even moreso… accusations in comments left here as to who actually put it up. The discussion digressed further by getting back into the petty juvenial fight between blogers and commentators that’s been going on and has absolutely nothing to do with Caylee’s case or Bill Sheaffer’s blog. Sifting through them for intelligent comments about Bill’s spot was very frustrating.

  932. murmelmurmelmurmel said, on April 27, 2010 at 7:35 am

    Once again, CatCarr, thank you … it’s just got my curiosity up, that’s all!

    Re: The Lovely Bones (sorry to be off-topic) … I haven’t seen the movie, but the book was incredible and so well written — one that will stay with me forever. The author also wrote a book called Lucky: A Memoir, which is another deeply-touching read.

  933. RS said, on April 27, 2010 at 7:42 am

    Ina,

    If you saw a pic of Caylee’s bones with plant growth, then you work for the defense, no question about it…

    …….which might explain the ODDI “theories” you float, that sink when hit with the bright light of logic, the attacks on Kronk etc…would then all be explained….

  934. WooBabie said, on April 27, 2010 at 7:58 am

    It’s funny, when Ina comes in the conversation shifts… to her. She knows a lot more than she lets on and you guys contiunally go back and forth with her, almost mercifully. She’s stated that she loves to stir the pot, and so many people play into her game! I think Craig likes to keep her around to be the devil’s advocate. And she’s pretty good at it.

    knowwhoyousupport – you make me laugh. Keep up the good posts.

  935. Riot Gear said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:01 am

    M Dave didn’t know who sirjef8 was until sirjef8 sat next to him. Had he not written trash, trash would not have been handed back to him. Both were wrong and everyone should face it. Grow up.

  936. C said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:03 am

    WooBabie
    If it works don’t try to fix it.

  937. RS said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Riot,

    Please post your full name here, so I can then place your name under a sex offender image on the blog I set up, but give me time to find a sex offender image and to write about said sex offender….

    ……..then next, after I have done that to you, then direct me to where I can find images of you and your family so I can then do an entire article on you as though you are Gay and sleeping with a family member…

    If you are not willing to do that, then I’d suggest you cease trying to equate what was done to sirjeff to your impression of what sirjeff did to marmalade…

    And when it hits the news of there being legal action taken for what was done, then maybe you will understand there is no equating the two…

  938. Ugh! said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:10 am

    I think it is important to remember that Judge Strickland describes his very short encounter with Dave Knechel as ‘UNREMARKABLE”. And that is probably what drives MD’s insatiable appetite for drama and media whoring etc…his unremarkable life. He seems like a lonely old man…no wife, no kids, mostly cyber buddies by the “sound” of things…no job…NO CREDIBILITY…we should really give him NO MORE “AIRTIME”..he is a twat, a loser, and just LOOKS smelly.

  939. Scotswoman said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 2:45 am

    http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/medical_examiners_report.pdf
    here it says that the body must have been there months before it was found, not how many months.
    —————————-

    Once again Ina, just as you did with the duct tape analysis a while back, you cherry pick the links you post……….You posted Dr Garavaglia’s report, who although she offers an opinion about the vegetation is NOT a botanical/osteological expert. She does however state her opinion that Caylee was at that location for MANY months.

    The subsequent detailed botanical report issued Jan 09 states Caylee’s remains were at that location for at LEAST 4 months and consistent with being there from Mid June, when she was last seen alive.

    Your “weeds” reference upthread is deeply insulting to this baby and to the various scientific experts and people who had the sad task of examining and retrieving her scattered and ravaged remains.

  940. LMAO said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:41 am

    Ugh! said, on April 27, 2010 at 8:10 am I think it is important to remember that Judge Strickland describes his very short encounter with Dave Knechel as ‘UNREMARKABLE”. And that is probably what drives MD’s insatiable appetite for drama and media whoring etc…his unremarkable life. He seems like a lonely old man…no wife, no kids, mostly cyber buddies by the “sound” of things…no job…NO CREDIBILITY…we should really give him NO MORE “AIRTIME”..he is a twat, a loser, and just LOOKS smelly.

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    Ditto. That pic in the OS just grossed me right out, the smell was probably coming from that filthy mouth. He is a rotten man and I am taking his blog off my list.

    There are more interesting blogs with interesting commenters and not OT inappropirate dirty talk. That always grossed me out too.

    When he posted on his blog Sunday that he was making another blog and then within 90 minutes that foul blog was posted by SS, I hit my limit. It was just very trashy with some horrible slang.

    Most of his regular readers missed it, since it was gone the next day. Now they are lying saying it didn’t come from them. Lie lie lie, that’s all they do. They are sick people.

    I am done reading his blog, he is a classless man and is still clueless as to what he does wrong. Things will never change, and I am sick of his garbage taking up space in my head! And no more airtime from me regarding Smellly.

    Thanks for listening all.

  941. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Scotswoman, it was the only one I found googling with the documents about the evidence; you say this report was not done by an expert. Ok. If I read an official report, I think it is official lol. Done by experts. But no such luck I suppose. I find your remark about insulting to the baby (I suppose you mean Caylee) rather unappropriate. To say the least.

  942. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:24 am

    RS if I work for the defense, it is time I got payed.

  943. amazed said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Woo Babie..

    Ina is a facade

  944. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:31 am

    @Scotswoman: So the only theories that can be discussed in here, are the theroies approved by you and others whose minds are made up already who did it? Is that not a bit too soon, since no conviction has taken place? No witness have come forward, no confession has been made?

  945. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:33 am

    I am a person, not a facade, and I happen to thnk a person is not convicted till the judge convicts. But you don’t need a judge perhaps.

  946. Scotswoman said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:34 am

    said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Scotswoman, it was the only one I found googling with the documents about the evidence; you say this report was not done by an expert. Ok. If I read an official report, I think it is official lol. Done by experts. But no such luck I suppose. I find your remark about insulting to the baby (I suppose you mean Caylee) rather unappropriate. To say the least.
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    Then I suggest after 20 months of following this case you are more discerning about what documents you post…………..though I dont buy that excuse Ina

    I stand by ” insulting” to Caylee and those associated with her recovery. Your continued innuendo about the published evidence speaks for itself. eg weeds

    Do you have an opinion on Dr Neil Haskel’s report?

  947. RS said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:34 am

    Well if Dr. Lee worked for a box of oranges per Mason, then they could at least send you a couple of oranges…

    You certainly aren’t lobbying for victim rights on here…..

  948. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:39 am

    RS the pic with that plant was on internet, so I suppose it was a fake, I already said so.

    Let me just say this: I suppose working for the defense is a capital crime in some peoples eyes. I think it is good work really. everyone might need a defense lawyer at times. If you make those peoples life’s hell, if you don’t give them respect, one day no one will do the job and who will defend you or one of your loved ones when the time comes and you are accused of some horrible crime?

    Now I am going back into the sun. bye!

  949. RS said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Ina,

    each time your “theories” are challenged it seems you launch into the…so only approved this or that is tolerable on here…

    Why not review the actual report Scots brought to your attention….

    And the posting of no confession and no witness coming forward is a chronic thing you post when challenged…

    murderers insist they are innocent, hence, they don’t usually confess, and too many times to list or even bother debating about, they do not do their murdering in front of people who will later come forward as witnesses.

  950. Ina said, on April 27, 2010 at 9:48 am

    And to the person who ‘quoted’ I like to stir up the pot, I never stated that at all. As it is not true. So where did you read that crap? I know, inaheadlesschicken, that blog of course. Well have I got news: that was not me writing there. If you think it was, think again. Thanks.(My earlier comment about that didn’t make it, I see.)

  951. nom de plume said, on April 27, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Typing this before reading all the comments, if this has been covered, please excuse.

    Ina, please try to use a little common sense. If something is on top of the vegetation, such as bones, it is going to stunt the growth of the vegetation. In other words, it will SLOW DOWN the rate of growth. The fact that the vegetation manged to grow up through the bones means they were there for a LONG TIME! Please.

  952. ThoughtElf said, on April 27, 2010 at 10:03 am

    Is it Friday yet?

  953. knowwhoyousupport said, on April 27, 2010 at 10:08 am

    Ina said: “I think it is good work really. everyone might need a defense lawyer at times. If you make those peoples life’s hell, if you don’t give them respect, one day no one will do the job”

    …and just like, Snoopy, who will never garner respect just because she is in a wheel chair, neither do defense attorneys garner respect simply because they are defense attorneys.

    I completely agree they have a job to do, and, should we require one, we wouldn’t be too thrilled to find we couldn’t get one because there just wasn’t enough to go-around, but, they are not all created equal. Some deserve respect and admiration, some do not. Take Baez for example…..

  954. I Say said, on April 27, 2010 at 10:17 am

    TE,

    One can wish.

  955. nom de plume said, on April 27, 2010 at 10:30 am

    I read the chickensh.t blog, it is porn, very disgusting. I also would like to know if anyone has screenshots – it would be good evidence for those of us who are trying to get the blight called Marinade off the Internet.

    Joe – I don’t believe Sirjeff is being haughty. He has righteous indignation, wouldn’t you? I believe we have to ask forgiveness when we break the 10 commandments. The only one that